Talk:Jammu and Kashmir Coalition of Civil Society

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Notability concerns[edit]

User:DiplomatTesterMan Thanks for your kind contributions. I have concerns that this article may not meet our WP:NORG or WP:NPROFIT notability guidelines. The organisation does not have any major coverage. the coverage of its members does not count to giving coverage to the organisation. they both need independent notability. Let me know your thoughts and we can decide accordingly the next steps. --DBigXray 21:48, 1 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I see what you mean. I do understand that their notability is limited to 'Jammu & Kashmir' and 'Human Rights' and they haven't been covered enough as an organisation. They get mentions but only fleeting mentions such as in this recent article [1] ... as you said coverage of its members does not count to giving coverage to the organisation which makes sense.
So yes, the more I look at this page, it can be deleted or redirected to 'Human rights abuses in Jammu and Kashmir' and a small section added to that page mentioning 'Human rights activists and organisations' in JK (even if they have been quoted in the article). DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 19:07, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
DiplomatTesterMan, thanks for understanding even though I forgot to link the policy WP:NOTINHERITED in my comment above, but as you know most of our policies are based on common sense and 5 principles so we can guess sometimes. --DBigXray 19:24, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Merge Discussion[edit]

Now coming to the Question of what to do with this article, I believe, the best way here is to merge the content with the founders page Parvez Imroz and redirect it to the founder as it is normally done for organisations that lack independent notability. This is based on my experience with WP:AFD process. Normally if the 2 of us would have disagreed here on the notability, the obvious process would be me nominating this to AfD and letting the community decide the fate of this article, Which most likely would either be a Delete or a Merge to the founder. Since both of us agree that this is not independently notable, so we can skip the AfD and save the community time. Let me know if you have any other better suggestion for the Merge target. Human rights abuses in Jammu and Kashmir to me does not look like the appropriate target as this group is like an NGO and works on other things as well. let me know what you think of my opinion. if you agree with Imroz Merge, one of us can follow the WP:MERGE procedure to complete this. regards. --DBigXray 19:24, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@DBigXray: 1. Yes, Parvez Imroz is a better merge location than Human rights abuses in Jammu and Kashmir.
2. There is a line on WP:MERGE - "If the need for a merge is obvious, individual editors can be bold and simply do it." So can I go ahead and do the merge since I think a consensus has been reached right... No need to open a discussion related to this? (My first merge too) DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 20:03, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yes DiplomatTesterMan, you are correct, since we already have a WP:CONSENSUS to merge and I dont suspect that there will be any reasonable oppose to this welll discussed merge, we can skip the merge discussion and go ahead and actually merge. Please follow the steps at WP:MERGETEXT and let me know once you are done. I will review if anything is missing.--DBigXray 20:09, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@DBigXray: Merge done according to WP:MERGETEXT. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 21:05, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • DiplomatTesterMan well done. You have followed all the steps of merge correctly taking care of the attribution requirement while copying the content within Wikipedia by using the dit summary as per the procedure. There was a minor ref error due to duplicate refname that i found and fixed here [2]. I am glad to have this fruitful discussion with you and I hope you gained more experience with this case. keep in touch. regards. --DBigXray 21:14, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]