Talk:Jean-Baptiste Hachème

Jean-Baptiste Hachème was a History good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
December 31, 2008	Good article nominee	Not listed
January 25, 2009	Good article reassessment	Not listed

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on January 6, 2009.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Jean-Baptiste Hachème supervised the government of Maurice Kouandete, being the de facto head of state of Benin?

Current status: Former good article nominee

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This article has been checked against the following criteria for B-class status:
Referencing and citation: criterion not met Coverage and accuracy: criterion not met Structure: criterion met Grammar and style: criterion met Supporting materials: criterion met

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GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Jean-Baptiste Hachème/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Hi there, I have reviewed this article against the Wikipedia:good article criteria and I am not quite prepared to pass the article for GA immediately. I have listed below the principle problems which prevent this article from achieving GA status. The article now has seven days to address these issues, and should the contributors disagree with my comments then please indicate below why you disagree and suggest a solution, compromise or explanation. Further time will be granted if a concerted effort is being made to address the problems, and as long as somebody is genuinely trying to deal with the issues raised then I will not fail the article. I am aware that my standards are quite high, but I feel that an article deserves as thorough a review as possible when applying for GA and that a tough review process here is an important stepping stone to future FAC attempts. Please do not take offence at anything I have said, nothing is meant personally and maliciously and if anyone feels aggrieved then please notify me at once and I will attempt to clarify the comments in question. Finally, should anyone disagree with my review or eventual decision then please take the article to WP:GAR to allow a wider selection of editors to comment on the issues discussed here. Well done on the work so far.--Jackyd101 (talk) 22:27, 7 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Issues preventing promotion[edit]

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose): b (MoS):

Prose is poor, with short paragraphs giving little context to the events in which this man was invovled. Each Wikipedia article should be able to stand alone without the need to constantly refer to other articles: what and where were the Maga riots and what about Hacheme's behaviour was "brutal". What did Hacheme do as heads of the Comites Militaire? What on earth is the role of "Commissioner of Dahomey's Ceramic Crafts"?--Jackyd101 (talk) 22:27, 7 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

- I hopefully clarified the Maga riot/brutal thing and expanded one paragraph a bit. I can'treally find anything that Hacheme did as head of the Comite other than supervise the work of Cristophe Soglo. The "Commissioner of Dahomey's Ceramic Crafts" really did nothing, it was just a title in essence. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs/editor review)}~ 23:38, 7 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):

Although in power for only one day, this man was president of a whole nation and is, as far as is known still alive. The article however makes no mention of his life prior to 1963 and then jumps four more years to his becoming president. There is then no mention of his life after he was sent to prison in 1973. Thus the entirety of this short article is concerned with his activities in one ten year period of his life. This leads me to suspect quite strongly that the article is incomplete. If this incomplete nature is the result of a lack of sources then this should be represented in the article with some indication as to why.

Added a note about the lack of sources at the end of the article. There are zero web links of any value, and Decalo 1976 is the only book to provide more than a mere snippit on Hacheme. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs/editor review)}~ 23:41, 7 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It follows the neutral point of view policy.
a (fair representation): b (all significant views):
It is stable.
It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic.
a (tagged and captioned): b (lack of images does not in itself exclude GA): c (non-free images have fair use rationales):
Overall:
a Pass/Fail:

Although I am sure you have searched quite extensively for information on this guy, I am personally uncomfortable passing this as it is because I don't think it is complete (it may well be that it cannot be made complete at this time). Would you object if I submitted this to WP:GAR to gain a wider consensus on the article? I would of course be happy to abide by whatever decision was made there, but I'd be interested to hear other opinions on the article. --Jackyd101 (talk) 23:50, 7 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, I would not at all. I understand why you are uncomfortable passing this, because (to my knowledge) this would be the shortest GA ever. Tanks for the time. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs/editor review)}~ 21:53, 8 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]