Talk:Jean Dunand

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About ARTUNAD changes

After several warnings of Pablo029 (vandalism, no neutrality), the user ARTUNAD was recently blocked 24h on French Wikipedia for R3R violation and multiple passages strength. This is a repeat offender.

These warnings relate to François-Louis Schmied, Jean Dunand, Jean Goulden and Gustave Miklos pages. ARTUNAD is a great admirer of Gustave Miklos (worshiper would be more accurate) and considers that Miklos designed most of geometric patterns for Schmied, Dunand, and Goulden. For ARTUNAD, Schmied, Dunand and Goulden are not "artists", only Miklos is an artist. More serious, he says Dunand, Goulden and Schmied exploited Miklos, that they are conspirators, and he despises them. I'm not at all agree with him, Art Deco experts either (eg Félix Marcilhac). Miklos was a friend of Schmied and Dunand, he sold them its draft designs (like Lambert-Rucki), but Dunand, Goulden and Schmied were also artists, who can design themselves their own geometric (or not) designs.

ARTUNAD's main source is the book of Mrs Danuta Cichocka Gustave Miklos. Un Grand oeuvre caché, published in September 2013 by her own publishing house (so without no review committee). This book was rejected as source on French Wikipedia because it has no reputation (it is just allowed to appear in the bibliography section).

Also notice that A(r)TUNAD = DANUTA backwards.

To monitor ARTUNAD's changes on French Wikipédia, Heddryin put the R3R blindfold on Miklos page, and Pablo029 put the R3R blindfold on Goulden, Dunand and Schmied pages (and he also reversed ARTUNAD's last changes). Now, ARTUNAD can not make forced passage on French WP (otherwise it may be blocked longer), but i see that, since 28 January 2014, it changes the Jean Dunand page on English WP.

For example, he removed the word "artist" in the introduction. ARTUNAD said "Last discovery proved" because Danuta Cichocka said it was she who discovered the Miklos collaboration for Schmied and Dunand. This is false, Félix Marcilhac already speaks in 1991, in his book Jean Dunand: His Life and Work (London, Thames and Hudson), and in an other book in 2010 : Gustave Miklos, Joseph Csaky (Kalman Maklary Fine Arts). Félix Marcilhac also said Miklos has provided much less drawings for Dunand than for Schmied. ARTUNAD said Dunand has designed none of its geometric patterns, but this is a mistake.

In externals links, ARTUNAD put www.gustave-mikos-monograph.com : this is the site where everybody can order Danuta Cichocka's book (225 euros). This link and the other external link (fr.cyclopaedia.net/wiki/Gustave-Miklos) allow ARTUNAD to promote Mrs. Cichocka's book, but they contribute nothing to Jean Dunand and I do not see what they do in his page.

Modified pages by ARTUNAD end up being unbalanced because it puts Miklos everywhere... This is Dunand's page, not Miklos's page.

Warnings and blocking of ARTUNAD are shown here: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:ARTUNAD#Pas_une_source

BerAnth (talk) 08:40, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]