Talk:Jeremy England

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The question of conversion to orthodox judaism

it can be fairly said that orthodox judaism is a more scripturally-adherent variety of judaism compared to, say, reform judaism. there are too many examples of this fact to be comprehensive but the reform judaism stance on tattoos with a jewish theme (namely that those who bear them are neither shunned at temple nor forbidden burial in a jewish cemetery) should stand in for the rest. suffice to say, orthodox judaism displays a far more rigorous observance of Leviticus 19:28.

this is one example of the more scripturally-adherent outlook contained within and practiced by orthodox judaism. this is something that orthodox judaism has in common with, say, evangelical christianity. evangelical protestantism is universally seen, and practised as, a more scripturally-adherent style of life and approach to religion. the nature of this more scripturally-adherent style of life is such that the motion out of one's prior approach to life and religion and into evangelical protestantism frequently leads to radical changes in position on any number of issues. one example, out of the vast cosmos of such differences, might be a more literal adherence to and advocacy for the biblical verses addressing homosexuality (Leviticus 18 and 20, Romans 1:26-1:27, 1Corinthians 6:9-6:11, 1Timothy 1:8-1:11, Matthew 8, and 19:12, Acts 8 and Luke 7).

decisive shifts in one's position on, in this example, homosexuality often lead to the attenuation, or even severing, of relationships previously amicable. the decisiveness of such shifts in position contribute to another universal term for one's entry into evangelical protestantism: conversion. the born-again routinely refer to themselves as having converted to a more scripturally-adherent style of life and approach to religion.

it follows that if both orthodox judaism and evangelical protestantism may lead one to radical and decisive shifts in outlook—shifts commonly remarked upon as bearing the hallmarks of conversion from a less scripturally-adherent way of life and into a more scripturally-adherent way of life—it follows that the term "conversion" is likely appropriate and accurate to the task of describing a person in jeremy england's position: a man who did not know hebrew despite having had a bar mitzvah who then, suddenly, decided to learn that language so he could read the torah in the original with an eye towards more stringent observance of its precepts.

anyone who had been indifferent to their non-sectarian christian upbringing before suddenly being seized with a passion to learn koine greek and biblical aramaic so that they could better understand the portions of the bible most relevant to leading a scripturally-adherent way of life would be spoken of as having "converted" without the speaker giving a second thought to the term. the same holds for england's sudden passion for the practice of judaism that features a more scripturally-adherent approach to life, a passion whose result england has himself termed "orthodox judaism".

it follows that the subject heading is accurate and does not need to be changed along the lines suggested by the anonymous editor. Georgelazenby (talk) 04:09, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]