Talk:Jerry Mateparae

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"Unit"[edit]

I always thought that once you became a staff officer you technically were not part of the regiment you used to be in, and that any association was just an informal one, or were associations like Col. of the Regt etc... 202.89.152.154 22:29, 30 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Service in the SAS"[edit]

Does anyone know about his service or role within the SAS? You can tell that he used to be a past member of the unit by looking at his right shoulder which display the NZSAS Parachute Wings, which each member is presented with. (Obviously he is not active anymore) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.238.136.83 (talk) 19:15, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment[edit]

  1. The article is suitably referenced, with inline citations where necessary. It has reliable sources, and any important or controversial material which is likely to be challenged is cited. ALMOST - the Wanganui Chronicle reference is problematic due to the number of steps needed to access the article via the viewer, and uncertainty over how long it will remain available. Possibly a direct citation of the newspaper with an auxiliary link to the web version rather than cite web
Done. Moriori (talk) 22:08, 10 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  1. The article reasonably covers the topic, and does not contain obvious omissions or inaccuracies. It contains a large proportion of the material necessary for an A-Class article, although some sections may need expansion, and some less important topics may be missing. NO - needs info on SAS, and did anything of note happen during his period as CDF? (I actually hadn't heard of him until the GG announcement, although my wife had). Also, did he graduate directly as a major? seems unlikely, especially as he was a platoon commander.
  2. The article has a defined structure. Content should be organized into groups of related material, including a lead section and all the sections that can reasonably be included in an article of its kind. Yes - I would possibly move his degree to the section which covers the rest of his education, although it needs to be clarified when he got his degree (presumably during his army service).
  3. The article is reasonably well-written. The prose contains no major grammatical errors and flows sensibly, but it certainly need not be "brilliant". The Manual of Style need not be followed rigorously. YES
  4. The article contains supporting materials where appropriate. Illustrations are encouraged, though not required. Diagrams and an infobox etc. should be included where they are relevant and useful to the content. YES but birth date needed in infobox.
  5. The article presents its content in an appropriately understandable way. It is written with as broad an audience in mind as possible. Although Wikipedia is more than just a general encyclopedia, the article should not assume unnecessary technical background and technical terms should be explained or avoided where possible. YES although it is probably going to have to evolve quite a bit as he actually becomes GG.

Overall, C-class. Raise importance to top once he takes over as GG dramatic (talk) 21:50, 10 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Raised to top-importance for WP:NZ, also for the Māori taskforce (not sure about this one, though). How much has the article changed since it was last assessed? – Liveste (talk • edits) 03:03, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Maori[edit]

The article states he is Maori. He is part Maori only, I would guess 1/4. Does anyone have information on this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.197.15.138 (talk) 08:20, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The statement in paragraph 1 "the first Māori person to hold the office" is inaccurate. Sir Paul Reeves (15th Governor-General of New Zealand) claims his mother "Hilda was Māori and of the Te Āti Awa iwi".

I have removed the comment, please cite your sources if you undo this edit.

Karl Stephens (talk) 08:36, 20 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Karl, you missed the context of the statement. It's referring to Jerry's time as Chief of Defence Force. I'm sure there's a cite somewhere. --LJ Holden 20:32, 20 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Religion[edit]

I understand this is generally a sensitive topic in BLP articles, but this Radio NZ report implies Sir Jerry as a Ratana morehu (follower). Can anyone find anything more substantial to confirm this? --LJ Holden 22:30, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

[1] is more explicit: 'Sir Jerry, who is apart of the Ratana faith...'. However, [2] reports: 'He says he "hasn't been to the Ratana Church for a long, long time, [but] I'm a Christian, absolutely". He and Janine were married in the Anglican Church.'-gadfium 01:41, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting, thanks Gadfium. I didn't see that in the SST article. Perhaps we should just list his religion as "Christian"? --LJ Holden 02:23, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
I would agree going with "Christian" Brian | (Talk) 11:42, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Governor General of Niue[edit]

I've removed the reference to governor general of Niue from the lead. It has been reverted by user:Mattlore, referring to the article about Governor-General of New Zealand, where this is would be sourced. That article states correctly: "Under the Niue Constitution Act, the governor-general also represents the Queen in Niue. While Niue is part of the Realm of New Zealand, its status as a self-governing state means that the Governor General's representation of the Queen as head of state in Niue is separate and different from the office of Governor-General of the entire realm." That doesn't mean however that he is Governor-General of Niue. There is no such thing as a GG of Niue. The GG of New Zealand acts as the Queens representative in Niue, according to Niue constitution act. Also, the source mentioned doesn't name a GG of Niue. Gerard von Hebel (talk) 00:31, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The GG's website is unhelpful, but have a look at this caption, where it states "Governor-General, Rt Hon Sir Anand Satyanand, in his capacity as Governor-General of Niue..."[3]. Similar references are also made in speeches by Satyanand, however this seems to be a bit of an invention by his office. The Constitution of Niue refers to the Governor-General of New Zealand and then just Governor-General thereafter. Either way, referring to Mateparae as the 9th Governor-General of Niue seems to clearly be OR so the intro needs re-working. Mattlore (talk) 01:01, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Jon Stephenson court case - is missing.[edit]

To the question did anything of note happen? Yes, the Jon Stephenson affair. It would appear that Mateparae mislead the PM about matters in Kabul.

I am not much of a Wikipedia contributor so, right now, I am hesitant to edit the article on this matter. Not sure of the form of words to use. It seems to me significant that hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars were spent by the NZDF defending a lie. Mateparae was NOT held to account for his actions.

Thoughts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dairyflat (talk • contribs) 21:16, 7 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It would be good to add that material you suggest. It was a major scandal that was just hidden away. 2407:7000:9B74:AF03:A1F8:1485:265D:1B6 (talk) 09:32, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Afghanistan issues.[edit]

Should be there something in place about his actions over the claims about prisoners in Afghanistan?

http://i.stuff.co.nz/sunday-star-times/columnists/4947005/Afghanistan-torture-haunts-next-governor-general Dairyflat (talk) 20:50, 8 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

And further.

http://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/90714075/the-odonnell-raid-in-afghanistan-the-seeds-of-the-new-hager-book Dairyflat (talk) 21:52, 8 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

And this appeared yesterday.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/98686400/government-to-look-into-the-allegations-about-sas-actions-in-afghanistan Dairyflat (talk) 00:03, 9 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I know this is a wiki... but any thoughts on a form of words would be appreciated. Dairyflat (talk) 00:10, 9 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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