Talk:Jim Jumper massacre

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Betty Mae Tiger Jumper calls this the "Bluefields massacre" in her book. Three different newspaper articles call it the "Jim Jumper Massacre". "Blue Fields Massacre" seems to be the wrong name. "Jim Jumper Massacre" or "Jim Jumper massacre" may be the most common name for the event, but there are other sources I haven't seen. - Donald Albury 20:08, 24 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

As noted above, Betty Jumper calls the incident "the Bluefields Massacre". This newspaper article calls the incident "the Jim Jumper Massacre". Two newspaper articles that are cited in Betty Jumper's book also call it the "Jim Jumper Massacre". I have not yet found those articles online.

Smiley, Nixon. (November 22, 1964) "Jim Jumper Massacre." Miami Herald.
Stout, Wesley. (March 1, 1965) "Jim Jumper Massacre." Orlando Sentinel.

Two articles in the Seminole Tribune are not yet available on line. If someone has access to copies, they might help.

Jumper, Betty Mae, and Patsy West. (September 1, 1995) "Brighton's Heritage." In "Reflections" column, by Patsy West, no. 95, Seminole Tribune.
West, Patsy. (September 29, 1995) "Brighton's Heritage: The Bitter Truth." Seminole Tribune.

Several contemporary articles in out-of-state newspapers (found by MrX) seem to have all been based on the same wire story, and provide no new information, and no name for the incident.

"Jim, a young Seminole" Stanford, Kentucky Semi-weekly interior journal March 5, 1889
"Victims of an insane Indian" The New York TimesMarch 3, 1889
"A crazy Indian runs amuck" Quebec Saturday Budget March 9, 1889
"A crazy Indian runs amuck" New York Herald March 3, 1889
"Eight Indians killed" Pittsburg Dispatch March 4, 1889
"A Maniac's Work" Saint Paul Daily Globe March 3, 1889

The Native South: New Histories and Enduring Legacies and Who belongs?: Race, Resources, and Tribal Citizenship in the Native South discuss the incident without naming it.

I think "Jim Jumper Massacre" may the common name, but waiting for consensus. - Donald Albury 12:08, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Funny, at around the time of the Miami Herald article I was an assistant to the City Editor. Anyway, I think "Jim Jumper massacre", lower case "massacre" is the best. But hey, I've found more work for you to do. See The Native South: New Histories and Enduring Legacies, University of Nevada Press.[1] Doug Weller talk 14:31, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I have one of Smiley's books (Yesterday's Florida), but it is a collection of historic photos. I had left Miami by the time he wrote that article. The Native South is interesting (at least what I can see in Google Books), and has some background on racial relations among the Seminoles that contributed to Jim Jumper's actions, but I have other articles in mid-development. The Who Belongs? book above has the same material (word-for-word?), but Google Books shows me a different selection of pages. - Donald Albury 17:15, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

And here is the 1965 article by Wesley Stout: Stout, Wesley (March 1, 1965). "Billy Bowlegs Told of How 7 Were Killed". The Orlando Sentinel. Retrieved February 2, 2019.) It does not give a name for the incident. - Donald Albury 20:25, 2 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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This is entry in Wikipedia is plagiarized, originally submitted by me, removed and resubmitted by another supposed author getting credit for it. I would request investigation. rahiim03 Rahiim03 (talk) 21:51, 5 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The article you started has not been deleted. It was moved to this new name after the above discussion on this talk page. All of your edits are still in the history, ending with this edit from 1 December 2016. - Donald Albury 22:17, 5 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Rahiim03: Donald Albury is correct. All you have to do is click on history and see that you are the article's creator. There's been no plagiarism and you should retract that claim. An apology would be nice. You should appreciate the improvements made to the article. Doug Weller talk 08:54, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]