Talk:Jim Suttle/Archive 1

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Archive 1

Bias

The bias that shows up in this article is amazing sometimes.

Just look at what Off2riorob and Go2102 were saying. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.71.78.253 (talk) 17:18, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Recall

Why has nothing been said about the recall attempt? http://nebraska.watchdog.org/9512/recall-clock-now-ticking/ --198.209.32.198 (talk) 18:25, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

dislike

stating that people dislike him is a attack? hardly.--174.71.89.43 (talk) 13:04, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

He is a politician , at least half the people want their friend in his job, not notable partisan issues belong on facebook not here, this is an encyclopedia not a protest article, thanks. What we want is notable stuff about his life story. Off2riorob (talk) 13:08, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Such as not doing well at his job.--174.71.89.43 (talk) 13:17, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Also one link out of a dozen was facebook.--174.71.89.43 (talk) 13:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

You did add 11 news articles, but most of those were about the effort to remove snow. None contained any direct criticism of the mayor himself and some were not even on the same issues, such as the potholes articles. Others, were links to message boards for user comments. Again this is not a partisan attack board.--Go2102 (talk) 17:32, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Yes about the effort to remove snow and his mishandling of it. You are trying to argue with facts.--174.71.89.43 (talk) 20:45, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

No, they were just about the actual process of moving the snow. There were articles about the progress, but none contained any wording indicating that it was anything near "grossly inadequate" as you have mentioned. --Go2102 (talk) 23:03, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

snow removal

Shouldn't something be said about his mishandling of the snow storm and the countless deaths attributed to it?--174.71.89.43 (talk) 19:19, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

I just do not think it is appropriate to list snow removal and impeachment on his page. It would be different if either of these were major issues, but this does not seem to be the case. If the best source we can get is user comments on a news site, where it seems to be about half and half on snow removal, and the impeachment being around 100 people on a facebook page, are those really up to the standards of wikipedia? It just does not seem objective to me, perhaps we should take them off until proper sourcing can be found? I don't want to get in an edit war here, so would that be acceptable? --go2102 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Go2102 (talk • contribs) 15:39, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Petition/recall

As the petition for recall was handed in and no action was taken in the alloted time, was it declared false or wasn't there enough votes or what is the outcome?Off2riorob (talk) 02:10, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Voting finishes tomorrow.--198.209.32.252 (talk) 04:56, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, I have added the update that the recall was defeated by Stuttle. Off2riorob (talk) 10:35, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Something should be said about the voter fraud on both sides. http://nebraska.watchdog.org/12235/exclusive-ballot-stuffers-face-years-in-prison/ --174.71.78.253 (talk) 06:24, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Why don't you then?--68.13.181.181 (talk) 19:08, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

We need another option Off2riorob.--198.209.32.252 (talk) 20:25, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

You win some and you lose some - any complaints about process do not belong here as the claims are against the campaign team and not this living person. Off2riorob (talk) 20:28, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

You don't find him apologizing for it a important part of the recall? odd.--198.209.32.252 (talk) 20:32, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Not really, you missed your chance, its over move on look to the future and the next election whenever that is. Off2riorob (talk) 20:35, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

You added this - Douglas County Attorney Don Kleine is investigating the bussing in of homeless by a pro-shuttle group and if they were bribed or not. - nothing about apologizing. Is there a suggestion that this living person bribed anyone? Off2riorob (talk) 20:37, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Nope just the fact the attorney is investigating the possibility. --198.209.32.252 (talk) 20:40, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

I'm well aware that the wording needs edited, and should probably be tagged for a POV revision. what I don't understand is the deletion of it as a attack by some "group". --198.209.32.252 (talk) 10:40, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

More sources covering the recall.(mostly the question of fraud.)

http://www.kvnonews.com/2011/01/suttle-campaign-falters-after-homeless-controversy/ (local radio)
http://www.action3news.com/Global/story.asp?S=13853805 (local TV)
http://www.ketv.com/r/26489672/detail.html (another local TV station)
http://journalstar.com/news/state-and-regional/nebraska/article_0fa6a3ea-5aae-5958-83f0-c8a4d4e5bbf8.html (local newspaper)
http://www.kmtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=13834559 (another TV station)
http://www.thereader.com/index.php/site/comments/voter_bussing_prompts_investigation/ (local newspaper)
http://www.omaha.com/article/20110119/NEWS01/701199860 (main omaha newspaper)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110125/ap_on_go_ot/us_omaha_mayor_recall (yahoo)
http://www.thereader.com/index.php/site/comments/easy_problems/ ( another from the reader, more general)

--198.209.32.252 (talk) 20:20, 15 March 2011 (UTC) And the original sources.

"Forward Omaha, suttle's campaign group is being investigated by Douglas County Attorney Don Kleine for accusations that the homeless they bussed in, were paid or offered jobs. Suttle apologized for the groups actions."

This will be added at some point if no comments are made.--198.209.32.252 (talk) 10:29, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Response to third opinion request ( Disagreement if sources are permissible and if actions of campaign group should be covered):

I'm glad that the sources are all in one place in the thread. From what I can see, Suttle is related to Forward Omaha as he demoted and appointed a new leader [1], so I think this is related to him as opposed to if he had no hands-on connection to the organization. I think this belongs in the articleas long as undue weight is not given and being cognizant of recentism in what is written.

"Forward Omaha, suttle's campaign group is being investigated by Douglas County Attorney Don Kleine for accusations that the homeless they bussed in, were paid or offered jobs. Suttle apologized for the groups actions."

As for the proposed text by 198.209.32.252 (talk), I think it is potentially misleading as it doesnt clearly state that Suttle acknowledged that the busing and the jobs were co-mingled when they should have been separated, but that he was only apologizing for the bad impression but not that there was any actual misconduct.[2]—Bagumba (talk) 01:10, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

place/time of birth.

Can anyone find this? i'm having no luck. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.209.32.252 (talk) 21:18, 19 March 2011 (UTC)