Talk:Jimmy Savile/GA1

GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Beloved Freak 10:07, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for criteria)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
Article does not conform to WP:LEAD, numerous minor WP:MOS issues. Mostly well-written although prose could be tightened up a bit, and it veers into trivia in places.
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
Queries about reliability of a couple of sources, many citations needed, some dead links
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
Not really assessed although I will say that it seems rather short for someone with such a long career.
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
Apart from the absence of citations for certain statements, the prose is on the whole, neutral and balanced.
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
Can't see any problems with stability as such, although article does not feel like it is in a finished state and there may be unresolved suggestions on talkpage
It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Image looks ok.
Overall:
Pass/Fail:
too many issues to pass at this time.

1 link to a disambiguation page fixed

Prose and MoS

Lead

Per WP:LEAD (which is part of the GA criteria), the lead should adequately summarise the rest of the article, not simply act as an intorduction. That is not happening at the moment.
Watch overlinking of common words (eg. television show

Early life

The prose could be tightened up a bit. One example: "Having started playing records in dance halls in the early 1940s, Savile claims to be the first ever DJ; according to his autobiography, the first person to use two turntables and a microphone, which he did at the Grand Records Ball at the Guardbridge Hotel in 1947." is a bit awkward
"mid-fifties" → mid-1950s
"and was often seen sitting on his front door steps" - this is a bit trivial, it's hard to see the relevance
Citations are generally put outside punctuation and at the very least this should be consistent throughout

Television career

The Big Brother details (eg. cigarette trading) is bordering on trivial

Radio career

This section is a bit of a list of facts really, the prose needs to be brought together a bit better

Catchphrases and appearance

This is basically a trivia section. Facts should be cited, and it needs to be decided which should be kept and incorporated into a proper encyclopedic article, and which discarded. Information about his catchphrases and appearance are definitely notable. Other facts, like "member of the Institute of Advanced Motorists" may not be.
External links should not be included in the main article text

References and verification

There are many statements that are not obviously verifiable and could use inline citations, a few of which have been marked with {{citation needed}} templates (by the way, before a further nomination, make sure all maintenance tags have been dealt with)
Sources used need to be checked for reliability. For example, what makes djhistory.com, djawards.com reliable?
Several links in the references are not working

Early life

"Savile is widely acknowledged as being one of the first in England and the world to use twin turntables for continuous play of music, thus pioneering the concept of DJing as we know it today." - "widely acknowledged" is likely to need more than one source, but it's certainly not backed up by the source provided. There is one mention of "an unhinged Yorkshireman named Jimmy Savile", but nothing about his use of twin turntables, or being a pioneer in the field. It's not at all clear how reliable the djawards website is either.

Television career

Four uncited paragraphs here, although much of the info is non-controversial and probably verifiable through IMDb, it could do with being a bit easier for readers to verify the information, especially in a BLP.

Radio career

Entirely uncited section
"which allegedly drew threats of legal action from Savile and forced an apology from Morris." - definitely needs an inline citation

Catchphrases and appearance

More references needed

Honours

More references needed

Charitable works

"One of the United Kingdom's most recognisable personalities" - er really? Could we have a reliable source for that?
It has been mentioned on the talkpage that the claim for £40,000,000 may be exaggerated, perhaps we could get an independent source that verifies that?

Unfortunately the article needs quite a bit of work to get to GA standard, so I'm not going to list it at this time. Would recommend a peer review after some of these issues have been dealt with. --Beloved Freak 10:47, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]