Talk:Joanna Hiffernan
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[edit]How can Whistlers "Symphony in White" and Courbet's "Irish girls, portrait of Jo" both be the same person?
I observe that the Courbet is subtitled "Portrait of Jo". This si significant. If Courbet regarded it as a "portrait" then it is to be presumed that he got something as basic as her hair colour correct. Her hair is flaming red. So are her eyebrows and her eyelashes. Her eyes are pale blue.
Could Whistler actually have got it so wrong? There is, I suppose, just the remotest possibility that she may have died her hair, eyebrows and lashes dark-brown/black. If she was alive in 2010, one would expect a 19-yr-old to change her hair colour. But not in 1862. The "White girl" has large brown eyes and a long face that are really nothing like those of Courbet's "portrait of Jo".
I don't know where this information originated but anyone with eyes in their head can see that it is plainly erroneous. If the picture labelled "portrait" is what it is that it is, my brother, then the other one is not Jo Hiffernan...."that's what I say, anyway!"
Amandajm (talk) 10:57, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
Whistler's portrait is somewhat idealised, changed to suit his own preferences. Jack1956 (talk) 09:11, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
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When did she die?
[edit]Did she die around 1903 as stated in this article or 1886 as stated on this website? Also the date of birth differs. Anyone who knows?--Gotogo (talk) 15:06, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
- Having seen an 1886 date with more detail mentioned in the article today and raised a citation need because it was unreferenced, I was going to suggest adding this as a source in the article, where it is mentioned but I note this article states she died on 3 July 1886, whereas the website states she died in autumn of 1886, and does not mention the address where she died or the suggested death cause, so if you added it it may attract the tag "Better source needed".Cloptonson (talk) 10:40, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
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