Talk:Jock R. Anderson

Jock R. Anderson was nominated as a Agriculture, food and drink good article, but it did not meet the good article criteria at the time (March 30, 2013). There are suggestions on the review page for improving the article. If you can improve it, please do; it may then be renominated.

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Heavy reliance on primary sources[edit]

This article seems to rely almost entirely on an announcement of a fellowship, a few speaker/employee bios, and Anderson's own work. Do any independent secondary sources exist on Anderson beyond the Marquis Who's Who (which is bit questionable for determining notability)? If not, what's his claim to notability? -- Khazar2 (talk) 18:48, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

His two books on risk and decision theory in agricultural economics appear to be recognized as the most influential in the field. I included mention of this in the article. Cla68 (talk) 23:13, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It appears to me that four out of the eight references are secondary sources. So, I'm not sure if the "primary sources" tag is necessary. Cla68 (talk) 10:22, 27 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough; you're welcome to remove it. (Sorry for the slow response, incidentally; I could have sworn I'd watchlisted this, but apparently I hadn't.) What concerns me was the proportion to which the primary sources are used here compared to secondary sources, especially given that the secondary sources are a bit borderline--a who's who, various announcements and bios, etc. The Ryan seems better but is only used once as part of a citation.

Is it possible to find any reviews or comment specifically about Anderson's work that can be quoted in the article? The conference paper calling one of his co-written works, along with one by another author, examples of an important theory in Australia is a good start, but as a reader I'm not entirely persuaded that citation in 4-5 papers = "most influential in the field", which seems to be the argument being advanced here. (For comparison, my own academic papers have been quoted in passing in about a dozen books, articles, and conference papers that I know of, but I absolutely do not deserve a Wikipedia article for my trivial work.) It also sets off faint alarms for me when I see an academic described as widely influential, but who appears to never have much directly written about his work, positive or negative. Generally if work is influential, it means that other authors are discussing it, reviewing it, applying it, and critiquing it at length, which this article doesn't really cover yet. Getting secondary-source commentary would be a big help here.

I'm not saying that any of the article's claims about Anderson's influence are untrue; obviously he had a prestigious career. But it would be good to bring in some discussions of his work beyond the university promotional material variety.

In any case, though, I've said my piece on this one and will now happily bow out, so feel free to ignore any and all of what I've said above. Thanks for your work on this one. -- Khazar2 (talk) 02:46, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Jock R. Anderson/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: JoeMeas (talk · contribs) 06:04, 28 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for criteria)

Well-written[edit]

In the lead, grammar and sentence structure could use improvement. Example: From 1978 to 1979, Anderson was Chief Research Economist at the Australian Bureau of Agricultural Economics, the first holder of that role. This sentence can be changed to resemble: Anderson served as the first Chief Research Economist at the Australian Bureau of Agricultural Economics from 1978 to 1979. In the following sentence, stating that Anderson later departed to his full-time position as opposed to departed would improve flow. In the second to last sentence, change science to scientific.

There should be no extra period after Washington D.C.

In the Early Life section, where is no need to list every every agricultural output produced at his farm. Family farm would be sufficient. That sentence in general can also be reformatted. I recommend: As a child, he lived on his family's farm named "Clifton Hills" in the Upper Burnett area of Queensland, often helping to tend livestock and produce.

This sentence could be reformatted: Due to an absence of high schools in his rural area, for his postprimary education Anderson traveled to Brisbane to attend Brisbane Grammar School. I recommend: An absence of high schools near his rural home necessitated Anderson to travel to Brisbane for post-primary education at Brisbane Grammar School.

List selected publications more cleanly and less like cited references. Example: Name N. (Year). Title. Location: Publication. ISBN Serial Number.

Wikipedia:Verifiability[edit]

Anderson's career is well documented. However, the sources used for his early life at his family farm and personal life are difficult to access and verify. (Marquis Who's Who)

Coverage[edit]

This article seems to covers Mr. Anderson fairly well with what information is available about him.

Links to other articles could be improved however. Specifically Risk. There is Risk Theory, Risk Assessment, and many other articles discussing a form of risk. Is there a more specific article that can be linked to?

WP:Neutral point of view[edit]

This article is written with a neutral point of view.

Stability[edit]

This article meets criteria for stability.

Illustrations[edit]

This article needs an image of Mr. Anderson for the main infobox. Also an image of the cover of one of his publications would be excellent to have as well.

Final Notes[edit]

This has the potential to be a strong candidate for GA status. It just needs a little more work. Keep it up! JoeMeas (talk) 06:04, 28 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The nominator's gone, so closing the review. Wizardman 18:00, 30 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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