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Why was his whole "Personal Life" section cut out?

I don't understand why Joe Brown's whole "Personal Life" section was removed. That is the one section most readers look forward to seeing. 66.233.54.34 (talk) 04:46, 8 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

party?[edit]

This clown who calls himself a "judge" is a Democrat? On what planet? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.67.32.161 (talk) 21:07, 30 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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False traffic reports[edit]

I'm43 never had a dwi,nor a dui , now I'm not perfect ok but with that said I have speeding ,and driving licenses suspended I came to a town to start over in 09 day one that get here I get harassed by COPS here first cops here stopped me for no reason when running my tags they had no cause for stopping me, this town targets blacks, I did a standard test for a officer and passed it the cop told me he knew that I'm on something he in return has me do breathalyzer test and passed when i asked what I blew he stated that I don't need to know, so I lost job family everything behind all this so I left town didn't show up for court an this has been since 2013 ,and every officer I talked with says that after the standardize test that is were it was to be over with now mind you I do have driving tickets but never ever dui,dwi I need help or do I just stay away for ten or twelve years plz help this town is racist and I've seen cops here asult a man and friend, as well as the inhumane treatment of inmates I was once one when all inmates have to expose themselves in front of everyone to just to relieve your bodily waste with eight other inmates, this is a town that still believes in slavery can anyone here help pls Nappy44 (talk) 22:50, 16 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

How do I properly write the Controversial Views section?[edit]

This section had a bunch of content that was relevant to a public figure who is a media/social commentator on legal issues. It was deleted by an admin for poor citation because I used Podcast/Video or it was poorly sourced. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joe_Brown_(judge)&oldid=1099837646#cite_note-32

I read the rules for video and youtube and think I was following those usage rules. The reason I needed to use those clips and tweets is that they were said by Joe Brown in discussions where he was asked his opinion. There is no question that he said them and many podcasts spent time marketing his appearance on those shows.

I have proposed some fixes for the citations in each area:

For the section on Voter Fraud Lawsuit in 2014.There are 2 links, 1 is a legit source the commercial appeal, but I see what the problem is, it requires you to answer a question before viewing the article (which it did not require of me). However, courthousenews.com and its own wikipedia page; it has staff editors and writers, so I will leave that reference in and will add this reference: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/106304521/

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For the section on Harriet Tubman on the $20 Bill -

Both NewsOne and TheRoot are known Black Media sources. TheRoot was founded by historian,Henry Louis Gates. I can remove the video, but the article sources should be kept. He said some of the same things to a local news station? Fine, I'll cite it along with this one: https://wreg.com/news/judge-joe-brown-stirs-controversy-with-comments-about-harriet-tubman-on-20-bill/ Is the news station more reliable than Black media sources?

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Bill Cosby section

TheGrio is owned by MSNBC, so that should be a clean source. Black News Tonight was on the Black News Channel (which is an American TV channel) before Professor Hill became a host on the parent MSNBC channel. The deposition is also legit since it comes from a reputable news source, the LA Times. The tweets came directly from the Judges account and links to them. Please explain why this is a problem. Everything else stands and he actually said it. The video is there so that people can verify it instead of taking my word for it. He considers the women Cosby raped "groupies" and I am not sure why it's defamatory to him that some people would find those sentiments problematic.

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Support of Heterophobia

These are direct quotes that don't require interpretation and were written by JudgeJoeBrown or his team. Why shouldn't these be used?

https://twitter.com/JudgeJoeBrownTV/status/1332762520336084993

https://twitter.com/JudgeJoeBrownTV/status/1175435758750113792

https://twitter.com/JudgeJoeBrownTV/status/1511731851089661956

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I am removing the things he said about Kamala Harris, but he still said it. He's said it multiple times, across several different Black podcasts.

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Alex Jones Interview Jun. 24, 2022

-What's not in question is whether Judge Joe Brown appeared on Alex Jones' show on June 24, 2022. He did. But I can't link to Alex Jones' show because it would be linking to misinformation & propaganda which researchers suggest not doing, so I chose another show and only used those specific clips. But if you were to go to inforwars.com (which wikipedia bans linking to and is why I used a secondary source, Knowledge Fight - a podcast which tracks Alex Jones), The video is entitled, "Judge Joe Brown Puts The Smackdown On American Entitlement – Exclusive Interview". There are no edits to the clips.

I think it is very relevant that a person holding these ideas and is giving his legal opinions on shows has actually ruled over the communities he is denigrating. How can it be libel when it's actually what he believes, says, and continues to repeat?

I'm using self-published sources which follow the self-published sourcing guidelines.

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This is for any admins including @Sdrqaz. I am not trying to get into an edit war. I am simply trying to write about Joe Brown's opinions. Itsaboutheritage (talk) 22:47, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]