Talk:Johann Adolph Hasse

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Comment[edit]

Unfortunately, the Hasse article contains numerous statements now known to be incorrect: Hasse did not meet Keiser, though he highly valued Keiser's musical style; in Hamburg, Hasse was with Mattheson while Keiser was away from Hamburg; Faustina Bordoni was born in 1697 and died in Venice 1781; the date Hasse and Faustina met is not known; Faustina retired from the stage in 1751; Hasse was never in London; Hasse's Dresden manuscripts were largely saved from the Prussian bombing and survive in the Milan "Verdi" conservatory; nothing had been published as yet in Dresden by the time the Seven years' war started; Hasse was greatly admired by Bach, Haydn, Mozart; his contemporaries adored him as Padre della musica; there are good examples of drama in his music (in operas just as in oratorios); Hasse's instrumentation was very respectful of the singing voice (he was a tenor in his young days, singing the lead in his own first opera); calling it "low level" is entirely unjustified; Hasse enjoyed a lifelong mutual friendship with Metastasio (he set to music all but one of Metastasio's opera libretti) and with Farinelli (who made Hasse's music known to the London public); as to the periods of time Hasse spent in Dresden, Warsaw, Vienna and on travel in Italy (many times Venice, where the Hasse's kept a secondary residence while in Dresden or Vienna), consult the new article in the second edition of Musik in Geschichte und Gegenwart; the allegations of Faustina being involved with the Saxon elector are unproven, such an involvement would have been rather unlikely with Augustus III.

Source?[edit]

From the style of this article, it seems to have been written about a century ago. I find it hard to believe that any wikipedia-user wrote it. What is its source?--Gheuf 06:58, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In particular I am referring to the last paragraph. --Gheuf 06:59, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Quite right! I just googled the text and large chunks of it appear to be taken verbatim from the 1911 Britannica. I've just added the following to the references: This article incorporates text from a publication now in the public domain: Chisholm, Hugh, ed. (1911). Encyclopædia Britannica (11th ed.). Cambridge University Press. {{cite encyclopedia}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)

Voceditenore 10:16, 24 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

List of Works? Deleted?[edit]

The substantial list of works all seem to have been removed. Was this by mistake? Were there mistakes in it? I'm a bit puzzled. -- Kleinzach 14:10, 5 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No mistakes AFAIK. I'm planning to go back to that and put it all in a separate article, similar to List of musical compositions by Arthur Sullivan. FYI, a complete rewrite is underway at Talk:Johann Adolph Hasse/Rewrite. Cheers, Moreschi ^Talk 23:24, 5 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've now made a new page: List of compositions by Johann Adolph Hasse. 'Musical' compositions is not used except apparently for Sullivan . . . . -- Kleinzach (talk) 09:50, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Birth and baptism[edit]

These details have just been changed. Perhaps we could have an explanation about the latest scholarship on this? Thanks. --Klein zach 23:52, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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moved page[edit]

What you did is nonsense, there is no obvious reason to change his name. You should have used the talk page to explain and announce your decision.Taksen (talk) 14:00, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

He was baptized "Johann Adolph Hasse". The "f" was later derived from the italianized form "Giovanni Adolfo Hasse" as explained in MGG. The article should be moved back. --Rodomonte (talk) 22:41, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I agree it ought to be moved back. The original mover, User:Driante70, also moved List of operas by Johann Adolph Hasse and List of compositions by Johann Adolph Hasse, so they need to be moved back, too. Worse, now other editors change "ph" to "f", e.g. at Siroe (Hasse). If this is not done soon, someone will no doubt change the Template:Johann Adolph Hasse one day. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 17:55, 17 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The 4 articles mentioned here have the "ph" spelling restored and 3 have been moved. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 08:20, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]