Talk:Johann Nelböck
![]() | This article is rated Start-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||
|
Untitled
[edit]What happened to Nelböck afterwards??? (note: moved from main article by 131.130.121.106 17:30, 22 June 2006 (UTC))
The book, Wittgenstein in Vienna, by By Allan Janik, Hans Veigl, has more information about Nelböck, including information about his subsequent career. Even before Schlick was murdered, both the right-wing Catholic clericalists and the Austrian Nazis had made Schlick one of their primary targets for elimination from the University of Vienna, both because of the atheism of the Vienna Circle, and for their connections with the Austrian SPD. Curiously enough, Schlick himself was a member of the Patriotic Front which supported the current clericalist dictatorship as the lesser evil to the Nazis. Anyway, Nelböck himself seems to have intellectually rather flexible. An erstwhile logical positivist, he soon became a Catholic-universalist and then a Nazi, who proclaimed that his murder of Schlick to be an act of service to National Socialism against the "Jewish" teachings of Schlick. In the post-World War II period, Nelböck worked for the Soviet Oil Administration and he took Russian classes to help further his new career.
JimFarm (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:54, 14 May 2011 (UTC).
Really really REALLY needs a source!
[edit]"Schlick . . . later slept with Nelböck's wife." You can not leave this unsourced; how is a reader to know whether this was a fact, or merely a lie disseminated by the Nazis in order to ameliorate Nelbock's culpability by defaming Schlick? It really needs a source. Hi There 14:46, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
I want to add this stuff, but I don't know how to add a source at the bottom of the page. But this is discussed in the book "Carnap and the Vienna Circle," on page 84. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.84.22.27 (talk) 01:08, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Sources
[edit]I've added a couple, but it's difficult to find anything reliable in any language that has much to say about Nelböck beyond the fact that he shot Schlick, and it remains unclear exactly what N's grievances against S were. The story about S sleeping with N's wife gets mentioned, sometimes in an alternative form that they fell out over a female student of Schlick's, but not on the more authoritative sites. Obviously all information was heavily propagandised from the start. No idea what he did in and after the war, although it seems he survived it.HeartofaDog 01:19, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Homosexuality and Nelboeck
[edit]The article on Schlick has a section that says "Nelboeck claimed that Schlick's philosophy had "interfered with his moral restraint" - by which he probably meant that under the encouragement of Schlick's philosophy he had indulged himself homosexually." Is there any support for this? If there is not much information about Nelboeck, or as the above author said that it is hard to get a clear answer through the fog of war propaganda, that itself should be noted on the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.30.2.130 (talk) 20:51, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
Empirism
[edit]Can someone with better German than I have please check the title of Nelbock's thesis? I expect it is Empiricism, not Empirism. But given the ease of creating neologisms in German I can't be sure enough to change the text. Thanks! Dionlindsay (talk) 17:09, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
External links modified
[edit]Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified one external link on Johann Nelböck. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20061213143927/http://zeit1.uibk.ac.at/quellen/stadler3.htm to http://zeit1.uibk.ac.at/quellen/stadler3.htm
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
- If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
- If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 04:50, 4 December 2017 (UTC)