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Featured articleJohn Balmer is a featured article; it (or a previous version of it) has been identified as one of the best articles produced by the Wikipedia community. Even so, if you can update or improve it, please do so.
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DateProcessResult
March 25, 2011Good article nomineeListed
September 12, 2011WikiProject A-class reviewApproved
February 19, 2012Featured article candidatePromoted
Did You Know A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on March 25, 2011.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that John Balmer achieved renown as a flying instructor in the RAAF by reputedly parachuting from an aircraft to force his pupil to land single-handed?
Current status: Featured article

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Reviewer: Nick-D (talk) 07:26, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'll review this article either tonight or over the next few days.

Interesting, I'm sure I checked this a few times after you opened the page but only just seen the comments now even though the history says you posted them on the 20th...! Anyway, better late than never (on my part) -- and many thanks for reviewing. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 09:44, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comments[edit]

This is a very high quality article. I've got a few comments, of which only the third, fourth and sixth are really relevant to passing the GA criteria:

  • Should "on the 1933 'B' course" be "in the 1933 'B' course"?
    • Well, I always thought you went "on" a course rather than "in" a course... Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 09:44, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
      • I think that the usage is 'in' (eg you participate 'in' a course), but it's not a big deal
  • What's meant by "commissioned as a pilot"? ("commissioned" is usually used to refer to earning a rank rather than qualifying as something)
    • You're right of course, just trying to get two ideas across with the minimum of verbiage-- will see what I can do... Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 09:44, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • The ADB entry doesn't say that he gained "national attention as a long-distance motorist", though this does seem likely.
    • Meant to put in one of the Trove articles that refers to it... ;-) Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 09:44, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Parallel to his Air Force career" sounds a bit odd as he obviously wasn't flying aircraft and driving cars simultaneously.
    • I didn't think it really came across like that the way it's worded. I thought about this at the time and decided it was better to put it this way so it wasn't implied that he left the Air Force for a time (as some did before the war, and then rejoined) when he took up motoring. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 09:44, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
      • Fair enough - I was probably being rather pedantic here
  • "cannibalised" might be a bit unclear to readers who aren't familiar with the ways in which military units are formed - you could say that 13 Sqn was formed by "splitting" 12 Sqn or similar.
    • Damn, I always liked "cannibalised", but you're probably right, see what I can do... Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 09:44, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
      • Actually, looking again, is it such a problem given it's in inverted commas? Anyway, let me know, the rest are done. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 09:55, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
        • In the context (particularly given the following sentence) it should be OK. Nick-D (talk) 10:07, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • "before returning to the New Guinea Campaign at its new base in Milne Bay" - this reads as if Milne Bay was the new base for the campaign, not the squadron
    • Heh, I guess it does at that, will rephrase. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 09:44, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment against GA criteria[edit]

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

  1. Is it reasonably well written?
    A. Prose quality:
    B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:
  2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
    A. References to sources:
    B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:
    C. No original research:
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. Major aspects:
    B. Focused:
  4. Is it neutral?
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. Is it stable?
    No edit wars, etc:
  6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
    A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
    B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
  7. Overall:
    Pass or Fail:
Thanks Nick. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 10:16, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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