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I was fortunate enough to see John play a handful of times when he was on the east coast from 1984 to 1988

I remember seeing him for the first time with the San Francisco Allstars at the Wax Museum in Wash DC. All the Grateful Dead fans had gone to the richmond va shows, and there was only a couple hundred in the club.

I got to meet him after the Zero show at the Bayou in Wash DC in March of 1988......just a really nice person to meet.

Along with Jefferson Airplane/HotTuna bassist Jack Cassidy, John had to be one of the best dressed men of rock and roll. I have NEVER seen a picture of him in a tee shirt and/or jeans! --michael schuncke annapolis md 02:29, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

prominence in SF club scene

What's notably lacking in this article is any mention of his importance in the Bay Area boogie (my term) scene of the late '70's and '80's... I will attempt an addition but comments in advance are welcome. Dlabtot 05:12, 12 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

John's image in this article

What's the source and significance of the drawing used? I.e., is it from an important source in John's life, or from a fan? It doesn't really resemble him-- in fact, it looks more like his brother Mario. There are a lot of great photos of John out there, and unless this drawing has some significance to John's life, I think it should be replaced with a photo (or photos). Blue Order 10:41, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

There are no free pictures of John Cipollina. If you think it should be replaced, then find a picture under a free licence because currently there are none. And no, this is not from a fan. I just drew the picture because no picture that could be used on Wikipedia was available (well at least it was helpful to test my Wacom pad, and it somehow looks someone from Cipollina's family, meaning my drawing skills are not that terrible). Dake (talk) 16:45, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Picture removed. Dake (talk) 16:48, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Attribution for statements

I see that the John Cipollina article discusses his DC-150 guitar and his use of the vibrato bar and relates his explanation of his vigorous use of vibrato to Jerry Garcia, all without attribution to published texts. I may not understand the principle at work here, but when I tried to add descriptions of his Gibson SG guitars, based on my observations of photographs showing them and personal conversations with others who had handled them, I was immediately contacted and admonished against doing so.

Personally, I felt attacked and rejected as if I were some kind of vandal or evildoer out to poison the minds of Wikipedia users.

My emotional reactions aside, why is it OK for the article to let the unattributed material stand in this case but not in mine? All I said was that "the guitar has a reversed neck pickup, complete body binding, elaborate mother-of-pearl inserts on the fretboard" and further details. Since anybody looking at photographs of them can see these lewd details, why must the chaste eyes of Wikipedia readers be protected from them in text? Msml (talk) 05:38, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]