Talk:John Evelyn Duigan

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Assessment[edit]

The article has all the essentials for B-class. However, the 2-sentence lead paragraph is short for a B-class article. The summary is normally up to 4 paragraphs, depending on the length of the article. But since this article is brief, 1 paragraph of several sentences should do the trick. If it were up to me, I'd add 1 sentence each for Boer War, WW1, and how he riled people as CGS. Djmaschek (talk) 02:54, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Thanks for the feedback. Zawed (talk) 05:00, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Ian Rose (talk · contribs) 22:55, 2 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I'll aim to get to this at least by the weekend. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 22:55, 2 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies, I've been snowed under lately but haven't forgotten this... ;-) Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 07:11, 14 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Toolbox checks -- no dab or EL issues.

Prose/content -- pls check I haven't altered meaning inadvertently with my ce; other points:

You use McGibbon 2000 as source for his "nervous breakdown" but in 1998 McGibbon said "nervous exhaustion", which sounds somewhat less drastic than a breakdown (though I admit I'm not medically trained) -- how does McGibbon actually express it in 2000?

McGibbon 2000 does state nervous breakdown. Zawed (talk) 07:15, 26 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

"Duigan was promoted to major general and became the first Chief of the General Staff (CGS) and General Officer Commanding (GOC) of the New Zealand Military Forces, the first New Zealand-born soldier to achieve this position." -- I can't see where the source for this, McGibbon 1998, says he was the first CGS, just that he was the NZ-born soldier to hold the top position. The article wording is in any case a bit confusing. Is it that there was a GOC position before this, and a New Zealander never held this position before, and then they created the CGS position and gave it and the GOC position to Duigan, making him the first CGS and the first Kiwi GOC (hence the first Kiwi to command the NZ military forces)?

McGibbon 2000 says he was Commandant and GOC of the NZ Military Forces, the first NZ-born soldier to be so appointed; this became the CGS position in a restructure. I have revised the text to make this clear. Zawed (talk) 07:15, 26 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Structure/images/sources -- no issues.

Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 02:00, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ian, thanks for the feedback to which I have responded to above. BTW your changes look good, no issues there. Cheers. Zawed (talk) 07:15, 26 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, tks -- passing now. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 13:06, 26 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]