Talk:John Maulbetsch

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Good articleJohn Maulbetsch has been listed as one of the Sports and recreation good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
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DateProcessResult
February 6, 2008Good article nomineeListed
Did You Know
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on December 28, 2007.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ...that the All-American football player John Maulbetsch was known as the "Featherweight Fullback" because he weighed only 155 pounds (70 kg) and ate two pies a day for dinner during his playing career?

Okay, so did he die...[edit]

...in 1950 or 1951? TJSwoboda (talk) 00:14, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

John died in 1950. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.231.128.66 (talk) 02:49, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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GA review[edit]

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Needs serious expansion on the lede and some prose tweaks and citations

  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b (MoS):
    needs a few prose tweaks to remove repetition, consider changing Notes to References
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
    A few places could use citations
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    a (major aspects): b (focused):
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  • Lede... WAY too short.42K article, should have three paragraphs at least.Green tickYCbl62 (talk) 20:27, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Template:Persondata Green tickYCbl62 (talk) 18:55, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • I noticed a number of sentences starting with "One writer.." or "One reporter..." Might consider rewording a few to avoid repetition.Green tickY I revised most of these; only two instances remain where it seemed appropriate.Cbl62 (talk) 19:07, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Many other sentences (and the first sentence of a paragraph) start with "In (year)..." consider rewording to avoid repetition. This is especially evident in the Head coach at Ok A&M section, where there are four paragraphs in a row starting this way.Green tickY I eliminated most of these; only three remaining sentences start with "In (year)..."
  • College section, 1914 Harvard game section ... the last paragraph quotation, if the "faih Hahvahd" is in the quotation, you should put [sic] after it so it's clear that the misspelling is in the original.Green tickYCbl62 (talk) 18:55, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Same section, Maultbetcsch makes All American subsection. First sentence has a quotation that's not got a direct citation. Same for a couple of quotes later in the paragraph .. "To try to hush the matter up" and "Biggest stir of the season on the campus". and in the next subsection pie and coffee diet "greatest line-plunger of a decade".Green tickYCbl62 (talk) 20:33, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Same section , 1915 season subsection. Consider merging the first two paragraphs as they are very short and stubby. The whole subsection has a number of very short paragraphs that make the prose flow choppy.Green tickYCbl62 (talk) 19:13, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Professional football section, the last sentence needs a citation.Green tickYCbl62 (talk) 20:37, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Head football coach section, Building Philips subsection. Last sentence of the first paragraph needs a citation, since it's stating an opinion. "top football programs"Green tickYCbl62 (talk) 20:49, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Same section and subsection, third paragraph, last sentence feels tacked on and uncconected to the rest of the paragraph and it needs a citation, since that's a pretty serious allegation that he was an amatuer but took money for wrestling.
  • Same section. Both the first two subsections have a number of short paragraphs, consider merging or expanding them.Green tickYCbl62 (talk) 20:50, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Same section, Head coach at Ok A&M subsection, the last sentence of the first paragraph would not be hurt by a citation.Green tickYCbl62 (talk) 20:57, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Consider merging Later years section with the Postumous honors section and the Award section into perhaps a "Legacy" or "Later years and legacy" section. All three of these sections are very short, and either need expansion or merging. Especially the Posthumous honors section.Green tickYCbl62 (talk) 19:29, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Consider reworking the award list, that LONG list of award winners is a huge block of text. Is there an article on the award itself? Green tickYCbl62 (talk) 18:55, 6 February 2008 (UTC) There is presently no article on the award itself; I pared down the list to five truly outstanding players who received the award.[reply]
  • Consider changing the Notes heading to "References".Green tickYCbl62 (talk) 19:00, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

All in all, pretty good. Lede and merging. And some stray citations and prose tweaks.

I've put the article on hold for seven days to allow folks to address the issues I've brought up. Feel free to contact me on my talk page, or here with any concerns, and let me know one of those places when the issues have been addressed. If I may suggest that you strike out, check mark, or otherwise mark the items I've detailed, that will make it possible for me to see what's been addressed, and you can keep track of what's been done and what still needs to be worked on.Ealdgyth | Talk 17:38, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Great work! Looks good, passing it now.Ealdgyth | Talk 22:00, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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