Talk:John Mayall & the Bluesbreakers

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Separate article[edit]

John Mayall should be broken off to a separate article, there is a lot more to his career Fawcett5 21:42, 11 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Definitely. His influence on music in Britain needs to be reflected and he barely gets a mention in the article. Bluewave 14:11, 23 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Done --Leahtwosaints (talk) 17:33, 4 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Name[edit]

Wasn't their Name "John Mayall's Bluesbreakers"? That's what it says on the Covers and on Johnmayall.com. Although John Mayall & The Bluesbreakers seems somehow common aswell... --Lukx 84.128.122.250 22:39, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it was "John Mayall's Bluesbreakers". Vera, Chuck & Dave 22:47, 31 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Both are seen: e.g. "JM's BB" on Barewires, "JM&theBB" on A Hard Road. Mayall did not use the brand for some 15 years after Barewires (1968). Today almost all cds are reissued with the credits "JM&theBB", so one should look at the original covers. The larger issue is to decide if the discography here should be restricted just to these albums, leaving the rest for the John Mayall article. The distinction John Mayall 'without' or John Mayall 'with Bluesbreakers' should be worked in more details if the two articles are to stay. I am all in favor for a merging.al 22:55, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, most of his albums were done without the Bluesbreakers. This article is almost entirely wrong; it says every one of Mayall's albums were Bluesbreakers albums and everyone he played with was a bluesbreaker. It lists people who became prominent rock and blues musicians, such as Mick Taylor as alumni of the Bluesbreakers. Mick Taylor, was never a Bluesbreaker! Far as I know the only guitarists from the Bluesbreakers to become prominent musicians were Eric Clapton and Peter Greene.
ufossuck (talk) 03:19, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

After I put in the below I notice that this discussion was held a long time ago. How come nothing changed? I agree, there are serious issues with this article. Funny thing is that I was just reading the biography on johnmayall.com and whoever edits that site (I assume it is not his Bluesiness himself) made a lot of the same mistakes. I second the proposal to put it all under "John Mayall". Examples: 1965 - John Mayall plays John Mayall: Cover reads John Mayall (twice!), sleeve and label read John Mayall and the Bluesbreakers. 1965 - John Mayall Live: Cover reads John Mayall, sleeve and label read John Mayall and the Bluesbreakers. 1966 - Blues Breakers (Album title!!): Cover and label read John Mayall with Erik Clapton (was Clapton ever "a Bluesbreaker"? He swapped Mayall for Cream right after this album hit the presses). 1967 - Crucade: The cover reads John Mayall. The label reads John Mayall's Bluesbreakers. (the band on this album includes Mick Taylor, so he was indeed one of John Mayall's Bluesbreakers). 1967 - A Hard Road: Both cover and label read John Mayall and the Bluesbreakers. On the sleeve is a text by John Mayall that speaks about "the personnel of the Bluesbreakers". 1968 - The Diary of a Band: Cover reads John Mayall (sub text says "..selected Bluesbreakers club recordings), the label says John Mayall's Bluesbreakers. 1968 - Barewires: Both cover and label read John Mayall's Bluesbreakers. 1968 - Blues from Laurel Canyon: Both cover and label read just John Mayall. 1969 - I know of two album covers. One reads John Mayal & the Bluesbreakers, the other John Mayall and the Bluesbreakers. Sleeve and label say and the Bluesbreakers in both cases. etcetera, and so forth. It's inconsistent at best.

I recall there was an interview with Mayall shortly after he announced to retire the name 'Bluesbreakers' for good, in which he said that there never was a band named 'the Bluesbreakers'. I cannot find it though. I also know that a band named 'the Bluesbreakers' released a single somewhere around 1965. I always assumed this was JM's band, but never verified this. Finally, it is worth considering that nearly every country has a band named 'Bluesbreakers' (just as every country has a band named 'Free Beer.'). I know for a fact: Netherlands, Russia, Austria, Italy, US and Japan do. Sjaak(talk) 17:35, 03 January 2015 (UTC).[reply]

Formatting[edit]

Thanks to the IP editor who repaired the wikification on the album list. I have no idea how I managed to look at all those links and not notice they needed to be changed to internal links, not external. Shows how my mind is just on a different wavelength when I'm wikignoming. Thanks for fixing them. - Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 23:22, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kal David[edit]

Kal David played in Mayall's band sometime in the early eighties and appears on Cross Country Blues. Apparently he came after the brief Reunion tour of '82 for which Mick Taylor played the guitar. So it is true that he replaced Taylor but not at the end of the sixties. And he has no place in the series Clapton, Green, Taylor. Added this because somebody steadily sneaks his name in the wrong place of Mayall related articles.al (talk) 20:24, 24 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Discrepancy[edit]

This article states that Eric Clapton joined the band in 1965, but the Eric Clapton article states that he joined in 1963, leaving the band in 1965. This should be resolved. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.244.79.120 (talk) 13:49, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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&[edit]

I'm thinking it's 'and' in full. Is '&' the dominant style over all?
My Rolling Stone Guide from 1979 avoids using the full band name at all. Varlaam (talk) 16:43, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Song is played a lot so seems significant but not mentioned[edit]

"Room to Move", a song by John Mayall from The Turning Point (Room to Move (disambiguation) Shjacks45 (talk) 06:49, 9 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I find no mention[edit]

of the EP that Mayall recorded with Paul Butterfield and there is no place for EPs in the discography. It is difficult for me to believe that this has been overlooked, so I must have missed it? Mussent I? Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 22:35, 2 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]