Talk:John Murray, 4th Earl of Dunmore

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Re: Dunmores slaves.[edit]

 I'm much interested to see that he 're-sold his ex-slave soldiers after defeat'.  On the other hand I have actually seen the lists of land grants in Nova Scotia to these black ex-soldiers - which land grants are EXACTLY the same size as those granted to white volunteer soldiers from the various Loyalist Volunteer Regiments being de-mobilised up there in the 1783-4 period.   They didnt in fact like the climate, and later formed the nucleus of those, helped by a number of English philanthropists to return to Africa, and founded a new colony

of free men there. Its also interesting to see his sons serving in the Kings American Dragoons, (naturally called Murray, not Dunmore) and the unit being presented with colours by the then Prince of Wales, later Geo. 3rd, at a big ceremonial parade at Flushing Meadows, New York. A vivid description of this parade makes interesting reading.

217.38.66.12 15:34, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

So far as I know, there is no evidence that Dunmore 're-sold his ex-slave soldiers after defeat'; some Patriot American slaveholders certainly told their slaves that they would end up being sold in the West Indies if they ran away to join Dunmore, and certainly many Southern African Americans who joined the British didn't get their freedom at the end of the Revolutionary War. However, I've never come across any specific reference to Dunmore doing this, and I'd be very interested to see a source for the claim. In the absence of such evidence, I think that this unsourced claim should go. --Sonthonax 23:10, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Privy Council Dating[edit]

It says John Murray was born in 1730, it later says he was on the PC (privy council) from 1730-1809. Was he on it form birth as a noble or is that an error? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:A03F:4C5D:4800:C49B:CC76:96E5:1BD2 (talk) 16:24, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Wounding of Lord Dunmore[edit]

[1]The way the article is currently written, it implies that militia attacked Lord Dunmore at Porto Bello and wounded him before he took refuge on the British ship Fowey in June 1775. But the cited reference clearly refers to the attack and his wounding as occurring a year later, on Gwynn Island in July 1776.2603:6080:5A06:1200:61B7:E555:FB1C:6427 (talk) 13:30, 14 May 2022 (UTC)Susan Hudson[reply]

From the cited source "He was afterward obliged to take refuge on board his fleet, which was driven by well-placed batteries from one place to another, till he anchored near the mouth of the Potomac. Continuing his predatory warfare, he established himself early in June on Gwynn island, in the Chesapeake, there vainly awaiting aid, but was dislodged by the Virginians in July, being wounded in the leg."

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