Talk:John R. Jewitt

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Machee Ulatilla, king of the Klaizzarts[edit]

That's got me curious.... "-arts" seems to be derived from the usual Nuu-chah-nulth "people" ending "-aht" but this doesn't seem to be a surviving group; the annotated editions of Jewitt which are out there might clarify it; the "-illa" ending looks to this unknowledgeable eye to be Kwak'wala....on the other hand chiefs often had names from other languages than their own, e.g. Cumshewa and others. Just noting this here for further thought; could be a surviving group, depending on how that transliteration can be unknotted - "kl" is often "tl" for starters.....Skookum1 (talk) 15:10, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

letters?[edit]

How did he get letters to the other ship captains? 75.22.207.224 (talk) 05:43, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Almost certainly described in the Journal or the expanded account. A short mention of how would be nice, add a phrase to that sentence or something. Ready or not, the change will come. (talk) 00:00, 4 March 2011 (UTC)Pseudotsuga[reply]

Book report[edit]

This reads rather like a book report, with citations only to one source. Can we get some other independent references in here too?? --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû 02:24, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'd love there to be independent references, but I don't have access to any. I was the one who wrote most of the article, with copious references to his memoirs. I think this version is better than this one, and the difference is that I read the book and summarised what I thought was most important. An anonymous editor next gave some critical reflection on Jewitt's story (see diff), without citing any source. Clearly s/he got it from somewhere -- it would be good to know where, so other critical reflections can be added. BrainyBabe (talk) 07:16, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Victorian mores?[edit]

Queen Victoria wasn't born until twelve years after this book was written. If there isn't some corroboration put forward I will delete the passage.Shrikeangel (talk) 01:30, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What happened to Thomspon?[edit]

Towards the end of the article his book names him as the only survivor. Did his 'father' die on the voyage home?Relakit (talk) 10:58, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If I remember correctly, John Thompson was executed for getting out of line somehow. I've only read a condensed rehashing of the Journal and seen something on television, and that's all I can tell you. Thompson was supposedly a rather irascible fellow. Ready or not, the change will come. (talk) 23:58, 3 March 2011 (UTC)Pseudotsuga[reply]

Random, belated reply. Just did a research project on the book. There is no mention of his death in Jewitt's narrative, so it's assumed that Thompson survived the captivity. There are two alternate accounts of his death not long after, one purporting that he died soon after returning to Boston in 1807, the other claiming he died in 1815 in Havana, Cuba. ^[1] Tangelopixi (talk) 04:28, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Stewart, Hilary; Jewitt, John (1987). The Adventures and Sufferings of John R. Jewitt: Captive of Maquinna. Seattle: University of Washington Press.

Passionate Affair[edit]

Could we please have a reference for the sentence "Both Captain Barclay and a later British ethnologist in the mid-19th century reported meeting older witnesses who said Jewitt had been involved in a very passionate love affair with the daughter of a neighbouring chief"? This "later British ethnologist," who was he? I doubt that would be very hard for a dedicated researcher, the field of 19th-century British ethnology probably wasn't too big. As it stands, it might as well be author speculation. Ready or not, the change will come. (talk) 23:48, 3 March 2011 (UTC)Pseudotsuga[reply]

Sabbath and Sunday[edit]

Their Christian beliefs were a source of strength to Jewitt and Thompson. They were permitted to keep the Sabbath, by withdrawing on Sundays to bathe, read and pray. The men even made an effort to cook and eat a special Christmas dinner and often gave thanks for their continued existence.

The above quote in the article is confusing. Sabbath is not the same as Sunday in Christian tradition. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.147.176.233 (talk) 18:59, 9 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment comment[edit]

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In the first paragraph of 'Life with the Nootka' - 'Enslavement', the name Thompson is mentioned along with Jewitt. It can only be assumed Thompson is the second survivor and 'father' mentioned in the previous paragraph. Driftwood87 (talk) 13:59, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Last edited at 13:59, 8 June 2008 (UTC). Substituted at 20:20, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

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[1] Stewart, Hilary; Jewitt, John (1987). The Adventures and Sufferings of John R. Jewitt: Captive of Maquinna. Seattle: University of Washington Press.

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