Talk:John Rogers (Cherokee chief)

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Help requested[edit]

Hello, I want to expand this article, and to include reference to the subject's father, John "Hell Fire Jack" Rogers (1750-1846). What is the process for going forward to expand this article? Or, more specifically, what exact guidelines should one who proposes to change this article make, and what steps should be taken and in what order? Please be more specific that necessary.SeedEWound (talk) 18:53, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I want to know what guidelines will be used. What are the criteria by which we are going to judge what information is put down here? Will it be from the source, or is there a separate process for what is labeled controversial subject matter? In my opinion, and an opinion is shared above me by the scholars and academics who have studied this biography, is that what I am about to write here is NOT CONTROVERSIAL. However, it has occurred to me, that it might be considered controversial by someone UNFAMILIAR WITH THE SUBJECT. Therefore, it is my hope that no one who is unfamiliar with the information will chime in. That is, if someone sees this and says it looks wrong off the top of their head, I hope they will spend 12 months reading about the subject from every point of view first. There is no original research being conducted. All of this information is published and widely researched. However, due to my concern about previous edits that I made, and had individuals who were naive to the subject, and who were just reacting to their common sense, gut feelings as a guide. It was assumed, I MUST ASSUME in good faith, that I was committing vandalism when all I did was make a simple correction, to an error, that I previously pointed out 11 days prior and gave ample time for a discussion. Therefore, if you make any comments here, and you are ignorant of this subject coming to the table, I hope at least that you will ADMIT THAT FACT UP FRONT. Hiding that fact, in my clear view, is a violation or a breech of good faith, and in Nevada, where I live, that is illegal. Or considered illegal by very good judges. Therefore, take the time to understand all of this before lodging any complaints. I just know that, whoever reads this, will understand and have good faith, and not jump to conclusions (which would only indicate that BAD FAITH had been at work)SeedEWound (talk) 01:44, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm trying to follow the above and answer your request. I'm having a difficult time following the subject of the request. If you are talking about editing the article to provide more information about the subject then by all means. If you are wanting to add a reference to the father of the subject then it's ok so long as it focuses on the subject such as describing his fathers interactions with the subject or a link between the two. If the proposed references have nothing to do with the subject then it may run afoul of some guidelines. One question is whether or not his father was notable enough to receive his own article. I do not know that answer.Tsistunagiska (talk) 14:58, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]