Talk:Jordan Clarkson

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Filipino ethnicity/nationality

Quite a few edits have added to the lead that he is (some combo) of Filipino-American, American / Filipino, etc. This has also been added to his nationality in the infobox. As far as the lead, ethnicity is typically not mentioned there per MOS:BLPLEAD: "Ethnicity or sexuality should not generally be emphasized in the opening unless it is relevant to the subject's notability." Short of playing on the Philippines national team, I don't think it belongs in the lead for him. As far as nationality, it's unsourced so far that he is a citizen of the Philippines, so it should not be mentioned in the infobox per WP:BLP.—Bagumba (talk) 23:43, 10 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    FYI Clarkson is ineligible to play for the Philippine National Team due to FIBA rules.^[1] - --Wambeter (talk) 02:25, 2 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Lithuanian sources say different, reportedly Philippines coach Tab Baldwin has added Jordan Clarkson on the candidate roster and also that Clarkson holds Filipino citizenship. He's currently in Asia figuring out if he can play for the Philippines as a non-naturalized player.^[2] - --8obis (talk) 10:52, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Should be indicated as "Filipino-American", more than 100+ online citations available and Clarkson has already been issued citizenship per the first cite below:

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More sample of citations available, I can retrieve more than a hundred more indicating that Clarkson is a "Filipino-American". -3 REF Inserted- Cite error: The <ref> tag has too many names (see the help page). Cite error: The <ref> tag has too many names (see the help page). Cite error: The <ref> tag has too many names (see the help page).

TitanOne (talk) 16:21, 30 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Quiñones, Kali. "CHOT: FIBA RULE PROHIBITS JORDAN CLARKSON FROM PLAYING FOR PH TEAM". Solar Sports Desk. Retrieved 2 August 2014.
^ http://www.basketnews.lt/news-88456-filipinu-rinktines-isplestiniame-sarase-lakers-gynejas-clarksonas.html#.VdzEyfQY388

born in Florida not Texas

"The son of military parents, Jordan was born in Tampa, Florida, before moving with his family to Austin, Texas, and finally San Antonio" Read more: http://sports.inquirer.net/176057/clarkson-jordan-the-lakers-fil-am-sniper#ixzz3bTARo9F2 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomtom (talk • contribs) 21:04, 28 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Jordan Clarkson's middle name is Taylor. source: http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/clarkjo01.html 24.205.176.187 (talk) 08:36, 12 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Bazj (talk) 07:18, 13 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Deactivated edit request(|answered=yes) Mz7 (talk) 03:54, 17 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Middle name of "Taylor" added to lead sentence.—Bagumba (talk) 07:21, 17 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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please change Jordan Clarkson's "Nationality" from "American-Filipino" to "Filipino-American" because he had already secured a Philippine passport before 16 years old per FIBA rules. ^[1]^[2]^[3] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brianfauni (talk • contribs) 02:05, 1 February 2016‎ (UTC) —Bagumba (talk) 00:32, 2 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Allthefoxes (talk • contribs) 23:31, 1 February 2016‎ (UTC)[reply]

Note: The refs were there but incorrectly formatted, which also messed up your signatures. I fixed both with this edit.—Bagumba (talk) 00:34, 2 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The lead already has "Filipino-American", while the infobox lists "American / Filipino". It's not clear what you want changed.—Bagumba (talk) 00:37, 2 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Semi-protected edit request on 2 February 2016

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please change the "Nationality" section from Ämerican-Filipino" to "Filipino-American" because he has a Filipino mother and has a Philippine passport before he turned 16 as per FIBA rules.

References

Badua, Snow (2015-08-24). "SBP confirms Jordan Clarkson already a holder of Philippine passport since age 12=". Spin.ph. Retrieved 2015-08-24.

Brianfauni (talk) 01:47, 2 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: You've repeated the same request as above. I'll repeat my earlier question: The lead already has "Filipino-American", while the infobox lists "American / Filipino". It's not clear what you want changed.—Bagumba (talk) 02:48, 2 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Del Rosario, Paolo (2015-08-24). "SBP: No need to naturalize Jordan Clarkson". CNN Philippines. Retrieved 2015-08-24.

Brianfauni (talk) 02:06, 2 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format.—Bagumba (talk) 02:48, 2 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 25 May 2016 -- Jordan Clarkson embracing his Asian heritage

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Please change

"Clarkson is a dual Philippine and American citizen, the former by virtue of ancestral descent.[1][2][3] His father Mike Clarkson is African-American, while his mother Annette Davis is of half Filipino descent."

to:

"Clarkson is a dual Philippine and American citizen, the former by virtue of ancestral descent.[1][2][3] His father Mike Clarkson is African-American, while his mother Annette Davis is of half Filipino descent.

In recently years, Jordan Clarkson has been actively reconnecting with his Filipino Heritage.^[1] ^[2] He has visited the Philippines three times since May 2015.^[3] ^[4] ^[5]

Qishish (talk) 22:28, 25 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

References

Not done: The information (if it should be present at all) shouldn't be in the lead. — JJMC89 (T·C) 01:48, 26 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Meh. I'm wary of this story being from a bank, and if they have any ties with Clarkson which would make this a non-independent source. Moreover, NPOV would require integrating this also: "San Antonio is my home. Of course I’ve been to a lot of places, but I kind of kept that small-town mind-set. I feel like I’m never going to change from that", which makes it unclear the extent to which he is "reconnecting". I'd say just leave it out without more context, and additional independent sources.—Bagumba (talk) 04:33, 26 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you guys for the comments. I've taken off the details from the lead and added extra sources showing that he is learning Tagalog. In regards to if this bank has a tie with Clarkson, I think it is an objective interview just like many of those on ESPN. Plus there's no standard to judge if there is a tie between two parties -- as long as there is no commercial endorsement contract involved. Would you say Lakers Nation have no tie with any Lakers player? As a matter of fact they're still cited as a source on Wikipedia. Qishish (talk) 23:03, 27 May 2016 (UTC)Qishish[reply]

Not done: My NPOV concerns are still outstanding. Feel free to establish a consensus for your changes. Cheers.—Bagumba (talk) 19:27, 6 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Done I hope we can reach a consensus here. I've included more neutral news sources.Qishish 19:08, 20 June 2016‎ (UTC)[reply]

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Jordan Clarkson is now a member of the Cleveland Cavaliers.^[1] Mrfizzl3 (talk) 18:04, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Already done — MRD2014 ^Talk 03:12, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "Sources: Cavs deal Thomas for Clarkson, Nance". ESPN.com. Retrieved 2018-02-08.

[1] Quiñones, Kali. "CHOT: FIBA RULE PROHIBITS JORDAN CLARKSON FROM PLAYING FOR PH TEAM". Solar Sports Desk. Retrieved 2 August 2014.

[2] ttp://www.basketnews.lt/news-88456-filipinu-rinktines-isplestiniame-sarase-lakers-gynejas-clarksonas.html#.VdzEyfQY388

[3] ttp://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/sbp-jordan-clarkson-has-philippine-passport-to-bring-in-key-documents-for-fiba-evaluation

[4] ttp://www.spin.ph/basketball/fiba/news/jordan-clarkson-philippine-passport-age-3-to-play-for-gilas-as-homegrown-player-fiba-asia

[5] ttp://cnnphilippines.com/sports/2015/08/24/Gilas-Pilipinas-Jordan-Clarkson-natural-born.html

[6] ttp://eastwestbank.com/ReachFurther/News/Article/The-Many-Facets-Of-Jordan-Clarkson

[7] ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgfYetKiLgE

[8] ttp://www.nba.com/lakers/150523_clarksonphilippines

[9] ttp://www.thenational.ae/sport/other/lakers-jordan-clarkson-pledges-allegiance-to-philippines-i-wish-to-play-for-gilas

[10] ttp://www.philstar.com/sports/2016/05/28/1587756/clarkson-arrives-inspire-youth

[11] "Sources: Cavs deal Thomas for Clarkson, Nance". ESPN.com. Retrieved 2018-02-08.

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