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Parts of this article relate to a false narrative about the "independent republic" of California. Accordingly, I added a tag. WCCasey (talk) 20:52, 22 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

And I removed it. See Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2017 December 27#Help me stop fake California history. --Guy Macon (talk) 05:56, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
When I say there was no "California Republic", I mean that although a small group of rebels declared a "California Republic", no further effort was made to actually establish any kind of independent state. There was no constitution, no legislature, no president, no laws, no borders - only a flag. A hoax? No, but the article is misleading (BTW - a newspaper article that mentions the "California Republic" is not evidence of anything). Besides, 1846 has nothing to do with Alvarado, Castro and their coup of 1836. Alvarado's group got further than the 1836 "Bear Flag" revolt, by writing a constitution and declaring Castro president. Again, however, there was never any establishment of an independent government. The coup ended peacefully the next year, with Alvarado acknowledging Mexican authority and becoming the governor appointed by the central government of Mexico. WCCasey (talk) 04:07, 1 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The fact that the California Republic existed has been explained to you before, at Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2017 December 27#Help me stop fake California history. From The Los Angeles Times: "Although the California Republic was short-lived — it lasted from only June to July 1846..."[1] --Guy Macon (talk) 06:19, 10 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I stand by what I said above, which does not contradict the California Republic article (in its current form). That article makes it clear that there was never an independent California with its own government, elected officials, etc. If you look back through the 'California Republic' edit history, you will find the same sort of "independent California" claims that plague this article and others relating to the 1836-1846 years. Thanks to Guy Macon for starting a dialog on this subject at Wikipedia:Fringe_theories/Noticeboard#Help_needed_with_pseudohistorical_woo. WCCasey (talk) 05:37, 12 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Taking names

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To be reported to Wikipedia administrators: I'm compiling a list of editors/IP addresses that have posted false California history, and tend to give bogus reasons for doing so. WCCasey (talk) 00:55, 10 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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