Talk:Juan Rico

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Possible sources[edit]

Here [1] is a list of possible sources for the article, some with non-trivial critical discussion of Juan Rico and his role in the book/film. I think this is sufficient to demonstrate notability (or, at the very least, to make deletion controversial enough that it needs to go through AFD), but have no time right now to go through them and use them to rewrite the article. Hopefully, they'll be useful to other interested editors. Scog (talk) 08:02, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fictional Nationality[edit]

He's clearly Filipino. So why is the page categorized under Fictional Argentinians? I know that the ridiculous movie based from the book made Juan Rico an Argentinian but the discussion in this page clearly refers to Juan Rico of the book. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.205.28.221 (talk) 14:06, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Proposed Deletion[edit]

I have today removed a "proposed deletion" box added to this article a few hours ago. The subject of the article is the protagonist of an award-winning novel and a series of films. In general, it is helpful to have summary articles for characters who appear in several different fictional presentations: Ender Wiggin and Harry Potter (Character) both have their own articles, as do Elizabeth Bennet and Scrappy Doo. Further, Rico is an important example of Heinlein's treatment of non-caucasian heroes: he is (by a long way) the earliest example of a Filipino hero in a major SF work. This article has been slowly developing for several years, and will no doubt continue to do so. There's certainly no compelling reason to delete it. RomanSpa (talk) 15:37, 19 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

RomanSpa, Wikipedia articles are supposed to have content referenced from secondary sources. Damien Thorn#Analysis is one such example. Is there similar coverage for this character? Erik (talk | contribs) 15:54, 19 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not a specialist, but without too much effort I was able to find discussion in critical works by Slusser, Panshin and Gifford. The first section of this Talk Page lists further sources. I also noticed some interesting college study notes, comparing Rico with his counterparts in other military SF books. There seems to be adequate coverage. RomanSpa (talk) 20:32, 19 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@User:RomanSpa: could you add some references to the article, properly formatted? As written, it fails notability, and I would hate to have to nominate it to AfD if we can save it now with few minutes of work. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 07:29, 20 November 2013 (UTC

Per {{sofixit}}, "When you believe an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes." Warden (talk) 12:22, 20 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus: As I have already mentioned, I'm not a specialist. As you say, "we can save it now with a few minutes work". If you feel you have expertise in this area, feel free to go ahead. You might also find it useful to review WP:BEFORE, particularly Section C.1: "If the article can be fixed through normal editing, then it is not a candidate for AfD." It's fairly clear that there's sufficient information about Juan Rico available. RomanSpa (talk) 13:15, 20 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@User:Colonel Warden, User:RomanSpa: It's few minutes of work for someone, like RomanSpa, who claims to have already found good sources. Why should I spend hours of my time to duplicate his work? I kindly ask again that if an editor has already located good sources, that that editor spends few minutes of his or her time and add the said content to the article. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:14, 22 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]