Talk:Julia Serano

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She is Bisexual, not Lesbian[edit]

It's apparently a misconception in the media that Julia Serano is lesbian, which has carried over to this article. She does, however, identify herself as bisexual. I'm changing it in the article, and linking to an article she wrote herself, wherein she explicitly mentions that she is bisexual. --Akuen (talk) 16:03, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In Whipping Girl, she calls herself lesbian again and again. But OK, if she’s said ‘bi’ elsewhere... — Chameleon 05:58, 2 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
As she explains in the new edition, her identification has changed since 2007. She now identifies as bi. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 21:03, 8 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Florian Blaschke: You're replying to a four-year-old comment. The lead of the article currently states that Serano is bi. Funcrunch (talk) 22:26, 8 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I know, I just wanted to clarify the discrepancy. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 22:28, 8 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Early Life[edit]

I decided to add a section about Julia Serano called "Early Life." I wasn't able to find certain biographical information, such as the location and date of her birth, but there's information about certain aspects of her earlier life in her book Whipping Girl (which I own, but I don't believe is available on the internet) and also on a subsection of her website called "Switch Hitter." I decided to include the most important seeming available details of her life up until 2001, when she came out as a transsexual woman. Rebecca 02:35, 10 December 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Picture of a Sunny Day (talkcontribs)

Better picture please[edit]

We can hardly see her. Jidanni (talk) 04:09, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Just added a brand-new image. I put a few others in Commons to choose from as well. Funcrunch (talk) 16:17, 11 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Was Julia "famous enough" or "known" enough under her old name?[edit]

By the time she transitioned, Julia already had her PhD and numerous publications under the name Thomas L. Serano. She also mentions the name several times both on her website, and other articles about her. Some of her own quoted include "I was a tomboy, pardon the pun" and to "those who knew me as Tom..."

Serano has always been her last name, per her older and newer publications. I'm mentioning this because another edit to the article questioned her last name always being Serano.

Also, her current middle name is on her website, on her academic CV, listing herself as Julia Michelle Serano. Reference for all of the above: [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.248.159.105 (talk) 04:23, 18 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I have no objection to listing her current middle name, but unless she was notable enough to merit a Wikipedia page under her pre-transition name, I don't see why it should be included here. Deadnaming causes significant harm to trans people, and even if Julia herself is OK with her previous name being known, we should not encourage the use of pre-transition names here unless there is significant potential for confusion (i.e., people searching for someone who was well-known under a different name). Funcrunch (talk) 04:51, 18 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

References

Coined terms, and their use in gender studies courses.[edit]

Are there examples of where these terms are used or at minimum any sources clearly stating that her book Whipping Girl was used in the course? Additionally, should these terms even be linked? Effemimania does exist as a stub article that is only really contains citations to her book, and one other source that is based on the info from her book which I wouldn't really consider a separate source. Oppositional sexism does not have its own article and cisexual assumption only links to the article for her book, which seems the most appropriate for all of these since there is very little information on these terms found elsewhere from what I am aware. -- N.reese (talk) 00:51, 24 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

re "transgender identity": Serano's "cis dykes" and "cis women"[edit]

The article looks as if Serano had written it. Nothing controversial or critical. Quote from an article (https://quillette.com/2021/07/27/rescuing-the-radicalized-discourse-on-sex-and-gender-part-two-of-a-three-part-series/): "Influential American trans polemicist Julia Serano, for instance, seems genuinely mystified, and even angry, at the lesbians who reject her male genitals as an object of sexual attraction. “If it were only a small percentage of cis dykes who were not interested in trans women at all, I would write it off as simply a matter of personal preference,” she wrote in 2017. “But this is not a minor problem—it is systemic; it is a predominant sentiment in queer women’s communities. And when the overwhelming majority of cis dykes date and fuck cis women, but are not open to, or are even turned off by, the idea of dating or fucking trans women, how is that not transphobic?” (For the record, Serano is also upset at trans men with vaginas: “Trans male/masculine folks who claim a place in dyke spaces by emphasizing their lack of male genitals or their assigned-female-at-birth status royally screw over their trans sisters.”)