Talk:Juliane of Nassau-Siegen (1587–1643)

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Title of article[edit]

Can someone explain to me why she is called of Nassau-Dillenburg in this article? After all, she was a daughter of Count John VII of Nassau-Siegen, not of Nassau-Dillenburg. Roelof Hendrickx (talk) 14:52, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The title of the article has been altered some time ago. Roelof Hendrickx (talk) 12:44, 8 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Recent reversion[edit]

@Roelof Hendrickx: I wanted to let you know why I made some changes which you reverted. Wikipedia's style of writing is explained at exhaustive length in the Wikipedia:Manual of Style and its subpages. There's no need to know all of it, but I'll point out a few relevant parts.

Apostrophes and quote marks in Wikipedia use "straight" style. See MOS:STRAIGHT.
Titles are generally only capitalized when they are parts of names or sometimes when referring to the name of an office. See MOS:JOBTITLES.
Symbols are generally not used in text, and the ⚭ symbol, though I see that it links to Marriage, is not commonly used in English, the same way that English does not use * to indicate birth or a † to indicate death (though those are common in German). See MOS:NOSYMBOLS.

Thanks for your work and I hope you will see this as helping make Wikipedia better rather than as criticism. SchreiberBike | ⌨ 15:00, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your reaction. Let me respond.

I have big problems with using the symbol ' for apostrophes and quote marks. The symbol ' is imho incorrect for both apostrophes and quote marks. The fact that it is in the manual does not convince me at all. It is like saying in your manual that everybody says 1+1=2 but on Wikipedia we say 1+1=3. So, I won't use the symbol ' and I don't want it to be changed.
You are correct about the titles, I should've used lower case there. I will change that.
I only use the symbol ⚭ in the table with the ancestors, but I have never used it in text, nor am I planning to do so. The symbol is known in genealogical tables in all sorts of languages, even in English. I have used it in other articles that have been reviewed, and did not get any complaints about it. I prefer to use that symbol in those genealogical tables as they are shorter than using the word married. Besides that, in the Wikipedia app the symbol gets a color and is therefore better visible.

Thanks for your compliments about my work, I really appreciate that. I have no problems with criticism at all, and I'm sure you made your changes with the best intention. But I have strong opinions about lay-out as I've worked as an editor for a publishing company for over 30 years. And I'm convinced that lower standards will not improve Wikipedia. With regards, Roelof Hendrickx (talk) 00:25, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Roelof Hendrickx: Thanks for your well thought out response. I've no desire to argue about those things or to be a stickler about Wikipedia's rules, but don't be surprised if other editors continue to make such changes to follow Wikipedia's house style. Keep up the good work. SchreiberBike | ⌨ 02:59, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much! Regards, Roelof Hendrickx (talk) 13:37, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]