Talk:Julius Vogel

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Julius Vogel article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Biography: Politics and Government

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
	This article is supported by the politics and government work group (assessed as High-importance).

New Zealand: Politics Top‑importance

	New Zealand portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject New Zealand, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of New Zealand and New Zealand-related topics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.New ZealandWikipedia:WikiProject New ZealandTemplate:WikiProject New ZealandNew Zealand articles
Top	This article has been rated as Top-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by the New Zealand politics task force (assessed as Top-importance).

Journalism

	Journalism portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Journalism, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of journalism on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.JournalismWikipedia:WikiProject JournalismTemplate:WikiProject JournalismJournalism articles
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

Jewish history Low‑importance

	Judaism portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Jewish history, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Jewish history on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Jewish historyWikipedia:WikiProject Jewish historyTemplate:WikiProject Jewish historyJewish history-related articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Possible copyvio[edit]

Sir Julius Vogel's principal achievement as a colonial statesman was the discovery that the savings of the mother country could, with mutual advantage, be obtained by the colonies and applied to the construction of railways and other public works. That his system of finance was on the whole successful was amply proved by the prosperous state of the Australasian colonies. Sir Julius Vogel was the author of the act by virtue of which Colonial stock has been inscribed at the Bank of England and has become a popular investment for trustees. His project of law was accepted by the imperial government to the equal benefit of all the colonies. His scheme of public borrowing for the colony of New Zealand was put into effect in 1870, and within the next ten years the colony borrowed £22,500,000 at diminishing rates of interest, the population rose from 250,000 to 500,000, the extent of land under cultivation increased from 1,000,000 to 4,000,000 acres, and the value of exports from £500,000 to £1,500,000. It is also stated that in the same ten years he introduced 100,000 immigrants and caused 1,200 miles of railway to be constructed. During a visit to England he established the existing mail service between New Zealand and San Francisco. In his first premiership he set on foot the government life-insurance system and organized the New Zealand Public Trusteeship. He was one of the first to advocate imperial federation.

The above material may be found at [1] where full copyright is claimed [2]. However, [3] suggests that the text originates from the 1899 printed edition of the encyclopedia, in which case it could legally be used in Wikipedia provided it was typed in using the printed version as a reference. dramatic 05:09, 18 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Anno Domini 2000[edit]

Okay, seeing as there's no reference to published editions, or a plot summary on its own page, I'll take care of those.

User Calibanu 14.24, 11 June 2006.

Remark[edit]

No Israeli prime ministers were religious. Daily practicing was nobody of them. More traditionalist was, maybe, Begin. User:Cpt.schoener|Cpt.schoener]] (talk) 23:31, 5 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

1866 election[edit]

I'm not sure what Vogel was up to in 1866. His Dictionary of New Zealand Biography entry certainly got it wrong with what they imply here:

In the general election of 1866 Vogel contested Waikouaiti and was defeated. He had paid scant attention to the needs of his constituents. The prolonged nature of the election allowed him to be returned unopposed to represent the Goldfields.

Fact is, the nomination meeting at Clyde for the Goldfields electorate was on Monday, 26 February. Two positions to fill, two candidates, hence both of them are declared elected on the spot (Charles Gordon O'Neill was the other one). The other fact is that the nomination meeting at some courthouse (I'm guessing at Palmerston; as far as I know, Waikouaiti didn't have a court) for the Waikouaiti electorate was on Tuesday, 27 February. There were three candidates for one position, so the electors got to vote on the following day (28 February).

Dates and weekdays mentioned in contemporary newspapers, plus the election dates given in Wilson, all confirm the above order of events. So why would Vogel turn up to a nomination meeting for the Waikouaiti electorate when he had already been elected the day prior? Schwede 66 06:48, 8 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]