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Can any Russian speakers help to improve this article?[edit]

One of the secondary sources I've linked to in the article is in Russian. Could somebody please go through it and add any relevant points that they think would improve the article? I've only seen a machine translation so far, and I find that difficult to follow.

PeteBleackley (talk) 11:53, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Balance[edit]

Unbalanced article. Criticisms are missing — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:E35:8A8D:FE80:B85E:383C:936F:B44D (talk) 08:23, 4 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have some particular criticisms in mind? Whether or not a lack of discussion of criticisms in the article constitutes unbalance depends, presumably, on what criticisms exist and how much weight they're due. --Pi zero (talk) 16:28, 5 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The IP user may be referring to one of the most commons critiques of the language: addressing whether or not it achieves one of the stated initial goals, that of violating a linguistic universal (and thereby proving it non-universal, a bold claim if it proves valid). This is brought up in both the Smiley Award rationale and the jan Misali review of the language, both of which are overall positive but each of which consider the relationals as verbs, albeit cleverly pared-down ones. That said, I'm not sure where in the article we'd address this. Arlo James Barnes 00:46, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]