Talk:Katherine Clark

Katherine Clark was nominated as a Social sciences and society good article, but it did not meet the good article criteria at the time (March 12, 2014). There are suggestions on the review page for improving the article. If you can improve it, please do; it may then be renominated.

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GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Grammarxxx (talk · contribs) 00:08, 3 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Quick response, huh? But really, right off the back, this article is not GA material, but let's try to fix that.

Early concerns[edit]

Try to have this article have a style similar to the other MA Congressional Reps (they're almost all GA's)
Infobox dates - I know they're hard to find, but let's try to get exact dates for taking and leaving office
The intro's a tad short, and doesn't focus on her career (what has she done, what's it matter if she lives in Melrose?)
"Early life, education, and law career" - there isn't enough of any of that stuff in the article
House & Senate - combine these two sections and add more
"2013 congressional election" - again, needs more info and to be in a general "U.S. House..." section

This is a good place to start, but there is more to be done. Grammarxxx ^{(What'd I do this time?)} 00:08, 3 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: The Rambling Man (talk · contribs) 11:22, 5 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

Not familiar with the subject, but using an existing GA on a similar topic (Joseph P. Kennedy III) on what to expect.
Starting at the end first, concerns with references:
- Bare URLs e.g. refs 11, 40, 42, 43.
- Incomplete refs, e.g. refs 18, 37, 41 etc (be consistent with the amount of data you provide, e.g. retrieval dates should be present for the online sources consistently). PDFs should be listed as PDFs and have page numbers/ranges included.
- Reliability, what makes "Ballotpedia" reliable?
Back to the top, the lead only summarises her very recent career, it should summarise the whole article.
Not sure why you feel the need to repeat her full name in the "Early life and career" section.
"She studied abroad in" is "abroad" really needed since it's obvious that Japan isn't in the US.
"...state Office of Child Care Services." unreferenced.
"She moved to Melrose..." new para, start as "Clark moved..." Check for other instances.
" Massachusetts State Senate" appears to simply be called "Massachusetts Senate", shouldn't you be referring to it by its formal and correct name?
Would put the " 57%-43%" after "lost" rather than leave it to the end of the sentence.
Festa mentioned three times in one sentence is poor prose.
"That year she was appointed " new para, use "Clark", and avoid starting new paragraphs with a prose dependency on the previous paragraph.
" 63%-37%" just check that's using an en-dash please.
" tax (increase) certainly " shouldn't that be [increase] if you're not quoting totally directly? Or did she say (increase)?
Link pro-choice appropriately.
"he year awards from the Massachusetts Municipal Association and the " avoid this kind of external linking.
"which are often used as pawns in abusive relationships" sounds like personal opinion/OR.
wiretapping is a little colloquial for me, perhaps "telephone tapping".
"2013–2015" see WP:DATERANGE.

Quite a bit to do, so I'll put it on hold for a week. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:14, 5 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No activity here, so I've failed the nomination. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:09, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Image[edit]

Someone deleted the official photo of Katherine Clark as a copyright violation. Could someone run to her site [1]. pick up the press kit, and upload a suitable photograph to the suitable place? MarkBernstein (talk) 14:36, 13 June 2015 (UTC) That is not what she looks like at all. She is much older than that picture. Get an accurate one. 98.10.165.90 (talk) 23:38, 29 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Office Assumption[edit]

I noticed that the infobox on this article says she assumed office on December 10, 2013 whereas the article for the 114th US Congress says she was formally installed December 12, 2013. Which is right?--DeathTrain (talk) 14:30, 5 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Hometown: Revere or Melrose or not worth specifying?[edit]

Given that she was born in Connecticut and lived 20 years and was first elected in Melrose, is it really worth calling "Revere" her "hometown"? Yes, Revere is listed as her residence since 2021, but seems somewhere between misleading (only lived here <2 years) and invasive (do we need to specify at all?) to call it "hometown." KevinCuddeback (talk) 22:45, 30 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't believe that's the spirit of "hometown". For example, I always consider my hometown to be the place where I grew up, not where I live now (despite how long I've now lived in my current city). She now appears as "(D-Revere)", so there's relevance in mentioning Revere somewhere, but hopefully without using the term "hometown". Grk1011 (talk) 14:06, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Glad you agree and you put it nicely: hometown has a spirit--an "emotional" (POV) dimension--that I removed by changing it to "home city of Revere" (and Revere, is, in fact, a City)KevinCuddeback (talk) 22:02, 2 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

arrest of son[edit]

Her son was arrested on January 21, 2023 for defacing the Parkman Bandstand Monument in Boston Common with the tagging "ACAB" and assault. Adding two more sources because this was reverted.[2] [3][4] Artedm (talk) 21:42, 22 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

another source [5] Artedm (talk) 21:47, 22 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Only a single one of those sources link the event to Katherine Clark, and even so, this is a clear WP:BLPCRIME issue. If you're using different sources to "establish" facts like this (one showing a thing happened, a separate one showing that they're related), that's not how sourcing on Wikipedia works. We would want reliable sources that report on all of these facts. But again, the arrest (not even conviction) of a non-notable relative of an article subject is not appropriate for the page. Parabolist (talk) 21:52, 22 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

see another source including a response from the Congresswoman [6] Artedm (talk) 00:16, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Well, now you can understand why going so gung ho would've been a mistake, since the original even lower quality sources you had misgendered the subject. Of course, you still need to overcome the fact that this is a WP:BLPCRIME violation, and establish why this is notable for Clark's page. My point about sourcing was more trying to help you in the future. Parabolist (talk) 04:29, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]