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Did you know... that when American-born skier Katie Vesterstein chose to compete for Estonia, she had only visited the country once, and did not speak the language?
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... that when American-born skier Katie Vesterstein chose to compete for Estonia, she had only visited the country once, and didn't speak the language? Source: [1]
Created by Joseph2302 (talk). Self-nominated at 11:07, 5 February 2022 (UTC).[reply]
Hi Joseph2302, review follows: article created 5 February; exceeds minimum length and is well-enough written; sources are cited inline throughout and appear to all be reliable; some of the sources are in Estonian but I found no overly close paraphrasing from the English language sources; hook is interesting, mentioned in the article and appears to be confirmed by a Google Translate of the source; a QPQ is awaited, also the birth date is not cited - Dumelow (talk) 08:43, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
She is rightfully Estonian citizen by birth. Successors (children I mean) of Estonian citizens, are Estonian citizens. The only way you could "acquire" Estonian citizenship is by naturalisation, which means minimum of 8 years living in Estonia and passing the (mostly language) exam. Similarly to Katie, Warren Cummings Smith and Ingrid Neel just changed the country they represent. Pelmeen10 (talk) 19:28, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Pelmeen10 I have removed the category for acquired citizenship, as it is not supported by the text (and so fails WP:CATVERIFY). I agree that Estonian citizenship rules say the child of an Estonian citizen becomes an Estonian citizen, as per [2]. But were either of her parents Estonian citizens? There's nothing in the article about it, and I haven't been able to find details about her parents. Confusingly, this article does say Vesterstein gained dual nationality four years ago, but I think it needs more input more someone with better knowledge and sources, as that source could be confusing citizenship and sporting nationality. Joseph2302 (talk) 21:01, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
There are some things possible to add about her relatives [3][4] (both behind a paywall though). Her grandfather was named Paul and emigrated to USA in 1949 (unclear whether from Germany or from Estonia), who represented Minnesota Duluth University in the 1950s. Her grandfather's brother Karl stayed in Estonia and was more known - he won from Estonian championships between 1946–57 in alpine skiing 10 gold, 3 silver and 2 bronze; in Nordic Combined 1 gold and 1 bronze; and in ski jumping 1 silver medal. Later became a ski instructor/coach and the head of the ski academy.
Here is written that by FIS rules for you to represent a country at the Olympics, you need to have been representing the country for atleast 2 years - but Katie not even holding Estonian citizenship. Here says she started representing Estonia on 20 November 2018. For that the Estonian Ski Association had to activate her licence which they did on that day.
My best guess is that her parents and Katie never applied for Estonian passport as they didn't need it living abroad. But they are entitled for it. And probably Estonian Ski Association waited until she became a citizen. Pelmeen10 (talk) 05:12, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hello @Joseph2302: Do you have a reference to support your reversion? The existing reference contradicts you. Invasive Spices (talk) 15:57, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
If we're talking about the same thing as the rest of this topic, I added the link to United States Alpine Ski Championships. Also, which source says that she gave up her US citizenship? As far as I can see, they say she "chose to compete for Estonia", which is a completely different thing. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:01, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Joseph2302, review follows: article created 5 February; exceeds minimum length and is well-enough written; sources are cited inline throughout and appear to all be reliable; some of the sources are in Estonian but I found no overly close paraphrasing from the English language sources; hook is interesting, mentioned in the article and appears to be confirmed by a Google Translate of the source; a QPQ is awaited, also the birth date is not cited - Dumelow (talk) 08:43, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
Thanks Joseph2302, good to go - Dumelow (talk) 15:55, 6 February 2022 (UTC)