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Name[edit]

Khirbet er-Ra'i corresponds to the traditional English spelling. Dropping the consonant from the definite article seems to be practiced only by Israelis unfamiliar with the wider academic English practice. Why is it being used in an article of academic interest? Arminden (talk) 18:09, 18 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Addicional citations for verification[edit]

Here there are some sources which can be included in the article:

-Rollston, Christopher; Garfinkel, Yosef; Keimer, Kyle H.; Davis, Gillan; Ganor, Saar (2021). «The Jerubba‘al Inscription from Khirbet al-Ra‘i: a Proto-Canaanite (Early Alphabetic) inscription». Jerusalem Journal of Archaeology 2: 1-15.
-Thomas, Zachary (2021). «The Early Iron Age IIA Ceramic Assemblage from Khirbet al-Ra'i». Jerusalem Journal of Archaeology.
-Garfinkel, Yosef; Keimer, Kyle H.; Ganor, Saar; Rollston, Christopher; Ben-Shlomo, David (2019). «Khirbet al-Ra'i in the Judean Shephelah: the 2015-2019 excavation seasons». Strata: The Bulletin of the Anglo-Israel Archaeological Society 37: 13-48.
-Garfinkel, Yosef. and S. Ganor 2019. Was Khirbet al-Ra‘i Ancient Ziklag? Strata: Bulletin of the Anglo-Israeli Archaeological Society 37: 51–59..

I think each of them will be helpful for expanding and verifying the information in the article. If anyone wants to join in, we can start together.--Potatín5 (talk) 11:32, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

SWP[edit]

This place must be on the SWP amp 20, but I cannot find it under the name of Khirbet er-Ra'i. User:Bolter21 (or anyone else): do you know what name was it called when it was surveyed by the PEF Survey of Palestine in 1875? We should link to that survey, Huldra (talk) 22:31, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Can't access written sources right now, but I used Palestine Open Maps and found that the place appears on the PEF map under "Tôr el Hiry". It is located halfway between Iraq al-Manshiyya and al-Qubayba. Sites in the immediate vicinity include "Khŭrbet Furut" and "Kh. Mert es Seil".--Bolter21 (talk to me) 09:24, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, found it. I wonder how did "Tôr el Hiry" become "Khirbet er-Ra'i"? Interestingly, it must have happened before the 1940s, as the maps from the 1940s has "Khirbet er-Ra'i", Huldra (talk) 22:43, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Also, the survey by the PEF in 1875; where is that located? I cannot find anything in SWP, Huldra (talk) 22:54, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, to say that it was "surveyed by the PEF Survey of Palestine in 1875" is a vast overstatement (and where does the year 1875 come from?) The Garfinkel 2021 article only note that it was on the SWP map (Palmer, p. 380). It doesn't look as if SWP thought it was man-made. Huldra (talk) 23:10, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]