Talk:Korean Air Flight 085

A fact from Korean Air Flight 085 appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 25 March 2009 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that after the September 11 attacks, Korean Air Lines Flight 85 accidentally sent out a hijack signal?

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Section sizes

Section size for Korean Air Flight 085 (6 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	3,414	3,414
Incident	4,749	4,749
Timeline of events	24	3,095
September 11, 2001	3,071	3,071
See also	47	47
References	1,315	1,315
Total	12,620	12,620

elaborate, please[edit]

Now this is quite a story, and it is one I never heard before. Got lost in the flood of news surrounding the more central 9/11 events, I guess. I would like someone to say a bit more about about this factoid: "whole ordeal was caused by a translation error." Was it the transponder signal that was mistranslated, or was it the HJK? There doesn't seem to be much room for a translation error in either. What really happened? 207.69.139.160 (talk) 04:22, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

One of the sources goes into it a bit more. The Korean pilots thought the Alaska air controller wanted them to put on the HJK signal. But Alaska denies they said that. The crazy thing this is one of two incidents on 911. Military aircraft escorted another aircraft, an Air China Boeing 747 flying from Bejing to San Francisco, landed in Vancouver. But I can't find any info on what happened with the Chinese plane. -- Esemono (talk) 14:11, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I added this info into the article, otherwise it would really sound a bit strange as one wonders where there could have been such an error. --Proofreader (talk) 09:15, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

when ordered to squawk 7500[edit]

Please don't use terms without explaining them.

A general reader have no idea what "squawking" means. 90.229.34.175 (talk) 08:56, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Done PorterO'Shea (talk) 16:27, 12 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Source for the timeline?[edit]

The timeline includes time stamps for the events related to this flight. I'm curious as to what the source is. What got my attention is the line:

1:24 p.m. (ET) - The Korean pilots change their transponder signal to the four-digit universal code for hijacked — 7500

Standing alone like that it appears that the pilots did this on their own. I wanted to add a time-line item with that ATC instructed the pilots to squawk 7500 and the pilots did so. However, then realized I did not have a WP:RS for this.

Related to that is this news article (it's source #2 in the WP article) includes:

Connett says he asked the pilot to verify squawking 7500 and he says the pilot said disregard. Then Connett’s area manager told him to squawk the hijack code. Connett says he gave the order and the pilot did not argue, he complied.

The first sentence is a key detail that should be reported both in the article and time line.

I took a quick look to see if there was an NTSB report that would have had a transcript but did not find one. I did find this blog report that includes a copy/paste from an Anchorage Daily News article. Unfortunately, the original article does not seem to be on line. It has additional detail about the diversion. --Marc Kupper|talk 21:10, 19 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Confusing tail number[edit]

I noticed that while the image shows that the Korean Air 747 involved is HL7490, the article mentions that it is HL7404 instead (under the image: HL7490, the aircraft involved. But under the flight details, it says Registration: HL7404). Please confirm which tail number is correct.

TransportFan2014 (talk) 00:11, 3 November 2018 (UTC)TransportFan2014[reply]

The image is not the aircraft involved, caption tweaked. MilborneOne (talk) 19:05, 29 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Consistent naming of Korean Air FN's[edit]

Korean Air acidents always seem to have a leading 0 when it is a 1 or 2 digit flight number. Seems like there was a leading 0 in the flight number here as well. Sources such as CBC and Alaskapublic did mention it: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/whitehorse-remember-korean-air-flight-085-9-11-1.6170489 https://www.alaskapublic.org/2011/09/12/second-controller-speaks-about-korean-airliner-incident-on-911/ However, I must mention that the new York Times tends to exclude the 0/0's. Seen clearly on Korean Airlines Flight 007. KlientNo.1 (talk) 08:36, 28 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]