Talk:Kurenai Yuhi

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Requested move[edit]

Yūhi Kurenai → Kurenai Yūhi – As pointed out in Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Anime_and_manga#Naruto_character_article_titles, the current names for articles about Naruto characters are inconsistent with the names used for other anime characters (Naruto characters use Japanese order for names, while most other anime characters have their name in Western order), as well not following the naming guidelines in WP:MOS-JA.

DO NOT COMMENT HERE. Please participate in the centralized discussion at Talk:Uzumaki Naturo --Kunzite 02:03, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Kurama Clan arc[edit]

I was the one who added details about her being a genjutsu user, and that's what the section was supposed to be about. A handful of edits were made to it, which I don't mind at all, but it's starting to move away from the original intent of the content. The article is about Kurenai, not what happened in the arc. We're suppoesd to focus on her being viewed as a talented genjutsu user. At least this is what I think, that it's much clearer that way. All the arc details should be moved to an article about the arc itself, or scrapped altogether. Edit pending whenever I get the chance.--Htmlism 17:25, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Kurama Arc badly needs to be shortened. Way too long for a filler arc and has basically turned into a long recap instead of focusing on Kurenai. 67.80.145.64 01:54, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, is does... C'mon folks, it's a filler arc for fanfiction's sake! It isn't vital for either the plot, the character development or anything elese except time killing, cut it short(er)!

Background Needs to Be Fixed[edit]

I was reading this and noticed that under the heading Background the following statement was shown rather than the correct information: "I feel like a sexy potaro right now". I do hope someone can fix this soon as I cannot because I am not a registered member nor do I know the correct information that should be in its place. Thanks in advance to the person who fixes this. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.39.96.237 (talk) 23:50, 6 February 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Marital Status[edit]

In the current chapter 324, Kurenai is shown to be wearing a ring. Can she be considered as married to Asuma? I don't know if it has been show before in the anime or the manga. There is no real fact that they are actually married.

Althought she is married or not she is pregnant. You should add it. Black Dollar 15 February 2007

MARITAL UPDATE (February 15 - MKyros) - She is indeed married to Sarutobi Asuma, so her new name should be Sarutobi Kurenei, or Kurenei Sarutobi.

I was the one who added the ring part. It is ominously shown in a single separate pane in the manga, so it's most likely significant. We can't really be sure about a marriage, so I also added the possibility of just engagement. Also, if she is indeed married, that does not guarantee a name change in some cultures (not sure about Japan). Ronyu02 18:03, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's best to let the next databook sort it out. Right now, anything would be specualtion. Dasherman 20:45, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Also, it cannot be said that the ring itself was the focus of the pane, it could be stated Shikamaru's focus was infact Kurenai's unborn child, setting the stage for his next statement in regareds to it. The exact imporants of the ring is unknown. ---Dragon son

Yep, saw it on the Leaf Ninja Connections. User:SoundPound500000

I bet that they got married over the timeskip. User:Verde Flash

Why is the ring not even mentioned on the page? It could just be stated that she was "wearing a ring, possibly indicating that they were married". Maybe it wasn't the focus of the pane, but I don't think Kishimoto would put it clearly there for no reason. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 129.2.148.227 (talk) 01:48, 22 February 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Speculation. A big no-no. For all we know, the ring could mean something completely different. Treima 01:51, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My best guess is that they are engaged. Rememeber when Asuma wanted to talk with Kakashi alone, he defentally looked like he needed adivice or something like that. But when Kurenai showed up he said that he would talk with Kakashi later, but you don't see Kurenai after Asuma's death so they are most likely engaged. And the baby makes it easier to get this answer, do you realy think that Kurenai would have a kid if she wasn't at lest engaged.User:XaXfoolsXgameX Feb. 21 2007.

Family[edit]

It should be considerd to add a "Notable Relitives" to her file, to state that she is pregnant. Dispite the child not being named, it is clear that this unborn character is at least going to play a large role in the lives of Kurenai and Shikamaru. ---Dragonson145

Like with Asuma, there's no need to add the kid to Kurenai's relatives before it's born. But, since Age seems to be an indiscriminate place to stick someone's status, "(pregnant)" could be put next to her Part II age. ~Snapper T o 06:25, 17 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, well said, perhaps that should be added. Unfortunately, my membership is still premature. Maybe you could...? ---Dragon son

As for this little idea of mine, others don't seem to agree that it needs to be added, or at least not to Age. ~Snapper T o 04:26, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Being pregnant doesn't affect age. Being dead does. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 04:29, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I really only recommended it since Hidan's article has "incapacitated" under his age, though that's only because Profile would be floating there without it, empty and undisappearingly. ~Snapper T o 04:33, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I hadn't noticed that. Still, being buried alive would be more inhibiting that being pregnant. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 04:35, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

On a related note, it disappears now. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 04:44, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Also, wouldnt her name be Kurenai Sarutobi now that she married Asuma? --Count Mall 18:23, 17 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No, the ring on her finger could have been an engagement ring, we need to wait before changing her clan name. ----Dragon son

With this, does anyone know who is the father of Kurenai's child? I want to know! If anyone finds out, can they please tell me! Thanks, Asami.

All evidence points to Asuma, she was visiting his grave, fell to her knees and cried when she heard of his death, and the fact that she was pregnant was brought up in a conversation about Asuma. --- Dragon son

Ahem, some people may have not noticed this but kurenei's unborn baby makes her konohamaru's aunt and when the baby is born it will be konohamaru's cousin.Freaky........ Blackcat1313 20:57, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My understanding of relations may be off, though I believe the title of "aunt" is reserved for those who are a) the wife of someone's uncle, or b) the sister of someone's parent. Because b is not the case and a is unproven, the concept of Kurenai being Konohamaru's aunt does not fit with my definition of the word. ~Snapper T o 23:25, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ok my bad, that was a clumsy sugestion. But does her baby give her any connection to the Sarutobi FamilyBlackcat1313 13:49, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If she married Asuma: yes. If not, then she's simply her baby's mother. ~Snapper T o 18:03, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Relationship with Asuma[edit]

Under the list of hints to her relationship with Asuma, it should be noted that special consideration was given to who should tell her of Asuma's death, so much so that the Hokage elected to do it personally. ---- Dragon son

To give my own two cents on this topic: who's to say that the Hokage doesn't volunteer to be the bearer of bad news when any ninja is killed in the line of duty? ~Snapper T o 04:13, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I would think the Hokage would always do that, especially in a village where one could walk to the decease's relatives. It's speculation to say that her actions were somehow special when she only has to do so once. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 04:15, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, but if that where so, wouldn't she volunteer to tell a relative like Konohamaru, why would they care about her in particular if they didn't have a relationship? ---- Dragon son

That they were involved is obvious by being her being pregnant, and their relationship before that was already obvious to everyone around her. It only means she felt like telling Kurenai herself. The way you write it makes it seem like his death was somehow a super-special thing that they took all sorts of care to execute. The actual scene is hardly so dramatic. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 04:49, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

But it is important, and in that paragraph, we are to list signs of their relationship, if it is so obvious, why have anything. The death of a love is important, and the fact that the highest ranking person in the village believes it is worth their time to deliver such news, I thinks that is a very could indicator of their relationship. ---- Dragon son

Every indicator of the relationship doesn't need to be given, especially now that it's confirmed. Rereading chapter 330 does seem to indicate that Tsunade is volunteering to tell Kurenai once Kotetsu mentions her, but it's not made out to be that big of a deal. ~Snapper T o 04:56, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It is a big deal because she wants to do it, she is the Hokage. And to be fare it was never stated that the baby Kurenai is carrying is Asuma's, I'm not saying its not, but is hasn't been 100% proven. ---- Dragon son

It's not a big deal because she's the Hokage. The one at the top is usually responsible for such matters. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 05:02, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

exactly, she has the reasonably to tell loved ones about that stuff, so the fact that she wants to tell Kurenai means... and you didn't respond to the other part of me previous statement. ---- Dragon son

If you want to be more accurate, then change it to say that's she's just pregnant. Tsunade wanting to tell Kurenai herself is still not a big deal. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 05:08, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think the level of confirmation that it's Asuma's kid differs between translations. Having a taken-with-a-cell-phone copy, I can't comment with great confidence. And again, not every example of the relationship needs to be given. That paragraph is already long enough. And by "it's not made out to be that big of a deal", I mean the characters don't make out to be that big of a deal. ~Snapper T o 05:08, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

But they do, when Asuma's death is being discussed, out of the blue Kotetsu says, "what about Kurenai?" ---- Dragon son

Nobody made a big deal that Tsunade was volunteering. Did Kotetsu bring up Kurenai? Yes. Did Tsunade volunteer to tell her? Yes. Was everyone shocked that Tsunade volunteered? No. ~Snapper T o 05:17, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thats because it would be normal for them to hear the Hokage volenter to tell a LOVED ONE. She would only do that for a LOVED ONE. ---- Dragon son

And again, it doesn't matter, as it is was obvious already. because they are aware of the fact does not make it important. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 05:21, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

EHHH! we'll pick this up tomarrow, I'm goin to bed, nice arguments though. ---- Dragon son

I'll say it once more, and then I'm going to stop commenting in this topic: every indication, every hint, every time that it is implied that Asuma and Kurenai were together does not need to be given. What is currently in the article proves the point very sufficiently. Also, sign your posts with ~~~~ so that other people can figure out who's saying what. ~Snapper T o 05:27, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Shino[edit]

How about Shino? In the anime, I remember Kiba hinting that Shino has a crush on her. Is that canon? Is that in the manga? Moonwalkerwiz 22:57, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Details? I don't remember anything like that in the anime or manga. Retlor 13:38, 6 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's in the anime. I remember Kiba met Shino and Kiba said that Shino was early. Then he hinted like it has something to do with Kurenai sensei. Apparently, Shino is very eager to meet Kurenai, maybe because he has a crush on her. Does anyone remember that scene? Moonwalkerwiz 01:40, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It most likely is about Shino's need to be punctual and fallow the rules. Dragon Son 23:10, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

in part 1 he has a crush tyoe thing on her but in part 2 he likes her as the leader he only will take orders from her because he respects her that much it's rumoured in the next chapter that anko fills in for team 10's lead and shino dosent respect her like he does kurenai but any type of a crush still lingering has yet to be revealed

should some one[edit]

add unborn child to kurenis and asumas know realitives it is there kid aftur all even if isent born yet.

24.176.173.43 03:35, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My friend, I already went down that road with these guys, don't even try. Dragon Son 23:11, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

We will wait untill is's bornJacce 15:49, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pic of Kurenai and Itachi[edit]

Does anyone else besides me think that this pic should be in this article?? Candyo32 21:52, 3 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The cabal believes otherwise. /humor — Someguy0830 (T | C) 21:55, 3 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Seriously, should it? Candyo32 22:09, 3 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No. It doesn't need to be there for a single paragraph. 22:28, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

The most useful of images at this point would be of a pregnant Kurenai, though she isn't nearly fat enough yet for that to be overly obvious through image alone. ~Snapper T o 22:32, 3 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Does anyone else think it should be here? Candyo32 23:19, 3 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No, the picture doesn't need to be there. The picture itself would take up more space than the paragraph itself, and is just unneeded, besides looking a bit sloppy.Cruentus Imber 19:13, 21 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There's already an image here where it's appropiate. In any case, the fight between her and Itachi was not even significant in the first place, and there's no need to have more than a passing mention in the article about it. Sephiroth BCR 01:41, 22 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]