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GA Review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Kurnianingrat/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Juxlos (talk · contribs) 06:55, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Arsonal: I'll review this as my first GAR. Give me 2-3 days to read through the article and complete a first pass. Done in a day, turns out.

  1. Is it well written?
    A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:
    Several ambiguous sounding sentences:
    "the school soon closed as Dutch families began leaving for Australia and elsewhere.[13] Kurnianingrat also evacuated to the country with her family," this reads as if Kurnianingrat left for Australia, which from the following prose I assume she did not.
    Changed "country" to "countryside". —Arsonal (talk + contribs)20:39, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    " She also continued teaching students in secret other high school teachers" - missing a word, I feel
    Added "with" before "other high school teachers". —Arsonal (talk + contribs)20:39, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    "Despite inspections by Netherlands Indies Civil Administration soldiers at her home" - could use a copyedit
    This sentence seems clear to me. How did you interpret it? —Arsonal (talk + contribs)20:39, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    "of her home" sounds ike it'd be better.
    B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:
  2. Is it verifiable with no original research?
    A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:
    B. All in-line citations are from reliable sources, including those for direct quotations, statistics, published opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged, and contentious material relating to living persons—science-based articles should follow the scientific citation guidelines:
    What made you decide Sutherland's MA thesis as a RS?
    Heather Sutherland is a well-known and respected historian on Indonesia. WP:SCHOLARSHIP indicates preference toward secondary sources if I want to talk about Kurnianingrat's Master's thesis, so since Sutherland cites Kurnianingrat in her own thesis, I used it as reference. This thesis has also been cited in other works by subsequent (western) historians and scholars of Indonesia. WP:SOURCEDEF also appears to indicate that the source's reliability can be derived from Sutherland's authority on this topic. —Arsonal (talk + contribs)20:39, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    C. It contains no original research:
    D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:
    I feel like the actual part on her career between the late 1950s and 1991 is significantly underrepresented in the article, while her early life feels quite detailed. Do the sources elaborate further on her career?
    Unfortunately not. The main biographical sources, Zainu'ddin (1997) and McCarthy & Zainuddin (2017), rely heavily on Kurnianingrat's unpublished memoir (but they also filled in a lot of details and provided more helpful context, such as her association with Dahlan Abdullah). Since Kurnianingrat died before she could complete the memoir, these two sources largely stopped after involvement with IPBI. I identified a source in Indonesian (that possibly fails WP:SCHOLARSHIP) that mentioned her being on the board of Lembaga Sensor Film, but no further information, and I haven't been able to corroborate it with other sources. A couple weeks ago, I obtained a 1974 article of Tempo that talks about the background of her 1973 book, Practical Conversations. I will incorporate that shortly, but beyond that I have found nothing else. —Arsonal (talk + contribs)20:39, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    More minor, but her death in prose is only written as "October". Might as well at the 18 there.
    Added date. —Arsonal (talk + contribs)20:39, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    "By 2015, more than 10,000 volunteer placements had been completed by Australian Volunteers International in countries around the world" - feels quite tangential to the article
    Removed. —Arsonal (talk + contribs)20:39, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Do you believe that notes c) and d) are relevant?
    I could be persuaded to remove c), but I feel it's helpful to include to provide WP:AUDIENCE with more context on the administrative structure of the East Indies government to define what a bupati is, so that readers understand the family background. Footnote d) is along the same line, but I think it's more important than c), as it provides more context as to why Sastrawinata's third wife was considered more worthy of the Raden Ayu title than his second (Kurnianingrat's mother). —Arsonal (talk + contribs)20:39, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):
  4. Is it neutral?
    It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
    There is a heavy dependence on sourcing from works by Alisa Thomson Zainu'ddin. This is not necessarily a failing criteria – perfectly aware of the number of Indonesian figures super extensively covered by just one author and barely by others. Still, in the meantime, it could be great if you could find potentially other authors especially if you plan to take this to FA. Tone is sufficiently academic, though, so a pass on this point.
    Unfortunately, no other author has written enough on Kurnianingrat that would be considered "significant coverage". Both George McTurnan Kahin and Benedict Anderson have noted her in some of their book acknowledgements, but they haven't written about her biographically. Other publications in Indonesian, such as this tirto.id article, have simply been writings based on the sources I have incorporated already. —Arsonal (talk + contribs)20:39, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Is it stable?
    It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:
  6. Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?
    A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content:
    The image of Ali Sastroamidjojo could use an URAA tag.
    Added. —Arsonal (talk + contribs)20:39, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
  7. Overall:
    Satisfactory for a GA, including after the Tempo extra half-paragraph. Comprehensive as far as sources are available. Passing this (and also changed the topic to "Education", much more appropriate).

Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cielquiparle (talk16:21, 10 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • ... that Kurnianingrat rejected an offer from Longman to publish her English textbook because the publisher did not want to print the author's name on the cover? Source: "Banjir Bahasa Inggeris: Mau Apa?" [A Deluge of English: For What Purpose?]. Tempo (in Indonesian). 20 July 1974. p. 49. ISSN 0126-4273. Penerbit asing pun aktif pula mencari judul baru buat pasar di luar dunia berbahasa Inggeris: Longmans, misalnya, pernah menawar buku Practical Conversations yang disusun Ny. Kurnianingrat – meskipun kemudian ditolak, karena penerbit Inggeris itu tak ingin mencantumkan nama penyusun. [Foreign publishers also actively sought new titles for markets outside the English-speaking world: Longmans, for example, once made an offer for the book Practical Conversations, which was written by Mrs. Kurnianingrat – although it was later turned down, because the British publisher did not want to include the author's name.]
    • ALT1: ... that Kurnianingrat helped historian George McTurnan Kahin smuggle speeches by leaders of the Indonesian revolution from the Dutch? Source: Kahin, George McTurnan (2003) [1952]. Nationalism and Revolution in Indonesia. Studies on Southeast Asia. Ithaca, New York: Cornell Southeast Asia Program Publications. p. ix. ISBN 978-0-87727-734-7. In his few days in Jogja, George even managed to obtain—and smuggle out with the help of two brave Republican women, Jo Abdurachman and Jo Kurnianingrat—copies of the speeches Soekarno, Hatta, and Natsir had prepared for broadcasting to the world in the event of a Dutch attack, but had not been able to send because the rapid Dutch bombing of the Republic's central radio station on December 19.
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Wang Su-bok

Improved to Good Article status by Arsonal (talk). Self-nominated at 19:37, 31 January 2023 (UTC). Note: As of October 2022, all changes made to promoted hooks will be logged by a bot. The log for this nomination can be found at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Kurnianingrat, so please watch a successfully closed nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Yes
QPQ: Done.
Overall: Zeromonk (talk) 16:13, 1 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]