Talk:La Belle Lucie

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Card move rule[edit]

Is the cards can only be moved once rule an actual rule or a product of others? I don't know, and I don't want to be redundant. --XndrK (talk · contribs · count) 21:13, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It's not so much a standalone rule as a consequence of the other rules. You can play only a card on the top of its pile. So (for example) a H7 can be played onto a H8 if both are visible. But the H8 H7 pair cannot be moved onto H9 even if H9 is available. So the card H7 can be moved only once onto its next card; but it can of course be moved twice during one deal if it is moved first onto the H8 and then, after H6 is played onto the foundation, it - H7 - can then go onto the foundation. Cross Reference (talk) 05:12, 3 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

66% unsolvable if K not lowest in tableau?[edit]

The page says "For each king left in the second redeal, there is a 66% chance that the cascade cannot be solved (if the king is not lowest)." That's not quite the case.

What if the K is the top card on the tableau, but it can be moved to a foundation based on cards in other tableaus?
What if the top card in the same suit foundation is a Q?

The game gets super difficult if the K isn't the bottom card of a tableau. That doesn't make that tableau unsolvable, though, so 66% unsolvable isn't correct. Yayro (talk) 13:53, 14 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"For each king left in the second redeal, there is a 66% chance that the cascade cannot be solved (if the king is not lowest)." is a nonsense - meaningless - sentence. There are too many variables to make this sort of calculation. A King which is not the bottom of any pile cannot be moved except to a foundation, so the card(s) below it is(are) unavailable until the King's suit is solved and that King is sent to its foundation. So if a King is above a card of the same suit in any pile there cannot be a solution in that specific shuffle but a further shuffle, if available, might make it solvable. As written the sentence implies that if in the second redeal (i.e., the third and final deal) there are two Kings which are not lowest the game is (2 x 66% =) 132% unsolvable which is an obvious nonsense. Cross Reference (talk) 05:00, 3 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Variations[edit]

Pretty Good Solitaire calls the "alternating colours move between fans" fan games "Linus" (La Belle Lucie based) and "Ceilling Fan" (Fan based)

Solsuite has a "regardless of suit between fans" fan game called "Fan Easy" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leo02-2002 (talk • contribs) 08:50, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

If some definition or variation's description is unique to some play online site or some vendor of game software, we shouldn't include it at all. See WP:RS and WP:UNDUE. - MrOllie (talk) 11:40, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The Fan Solitaire[edit]

Sometimes, sixteen fans of three cards are dealt and the last two fans contain two cards https://politaire.com/fan

BTW, Demon Fan deals exactly like this (https://politaire.com/demonfan) [The solitaire game Demon Fan] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leo02-2002 (talk • contribs)

Again, If some definition or variation or 'sometimes' rule is sourced only to some self published play online site or some vendor of game software, we shouldn't include it at all. See WP:RS and WP:UNDUE. - MrOllie (talk) 11:29, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]