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Reviewer: SNUGGUMS (talk · contribs) 08:32, 1 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]


I'll review. Comments should be up within a few days. Snuggums (talk / edits) 08:32, 1 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the delay; I got sidetracked. Working on this now and will post the review when finished. Snuggums (talk / edits) 19:43, 6 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Production and development
  • "The first series of Inside No. 9 consisted of six episodes, each with a different cast and collection of characters, aired from February 2014. The programme was inspired by an episode of the first series of Psychoville, which was in turn inspired by Alfred Hitchcock's Rope." belongs in the main series page, not here
  • I don't see anything in the given source saying this episode was filmed in only one room
  • "The BBC ordered a second series of Inside No. 9 before the first episode had aired" belongs in the main series page, not here
  • I don't see anything in the given reference supporting "As each episode of Inside No. 9 features new characters, the writers were able to attract actors who might have been unwilling to commit to an entire series"
  • I will assume good faith with the text cited to DVD commentary
  • Not sure if "hard" in "director Guillem Morales worked hard on a story board" is necessary
    • There will be a reason I wrote that, but I can't remember what it was. I'll check the source. Josh Milburn (talk) 18:41, 7 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
      • The quote in question is this, from Shearsmith: "Guillem, the director, has been very industrious; he's really worked hard on the storyboard. [...] You've got to be really prepared and know what you're doing when you're in such a small space, so he's had every shot worked out, down to every single moment of the script. [...] I think he's really captured it in really inventive ways within that tiny little space." If you can think of an alternative way to capture this than the current wording ("Prior to filming, director Guillem Morales worked hard on a story board. For Shearsmith, the small space added to the need to meticulously plan the production process; he explained that every shot was worked out in advance."), I'd be happy to hear it! Josh Milburn (talk) 11:22, 11 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • The given references don't say anything about Hesmondhalgh being "surprised"
Plot
Analysis
  • The quote box is unsourced and unnecessary
  • "Shearsmith’n’Pembertonism" should be "Shearsmith'n'Pembertonism" per MOS:QUOTEMARKS
  • "The characters are generally not particularly likable people" is POV, and I don't see it supported within the given sources
    • They're portrayed as unpleasant people- that's basically the point. I'm not sure it's POV, in the same way I'm not sure it's POV to say how Homer Simpson isn't the brightest spark. The sources say "the most appealing character was a corpse" (The Telegraph), "Inside No 9 brought together several (mostly) unpleasant individuals with competing motivations" (Independent) and, after most of the review being given over to a description of how annoying/unpleasant everyone was, "Hell is, indeed, other people." (Liverpool Echo).
  • I don't see anything in the source saying Les is racist
  • Strangers on a Train is not explicitly mentioned in the attributed reference
  • There is nothing in the attributed source explicitly mentioning Horror Express
Reception
References
  • PopMatters shouldn't be italicized
  • "The Telegraph" should read The Daily Telegraph
  • Daily Mail (including "Scottish Daily Mail") and Daily Mirror aren't exactly high quality sources
    • I agree that the Daily Mail is a very poor paper, but I wouldn't have thought it was too bad for TV reviews, especially given that Christopher Stevens (the author of the longer piece) is a serious journalist who has worked for better papers and who has written respectable popular (as opposed to academic) books on television. I've removed the Mirror ref, but I don't think it's too bad, as far as tabloids go, and Jane Simon is a professional television critic (the information was fairly uncontroversial). Josh Milburn (talk) 18:41, 7 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm not sure if "Herts & Essex Observer", "Liverpool Echo", "Beyondthejoke.co.uk", "Chortle.co.uk", or "Den of Geek" are reliable
Overall
  • Well-written?
  • Prose quality: Could be better
  • Manual of Style compliance: Not exactly
  • Verifiable?
  • Reference layout: Almost
  • Reliable sources: Two unreliable sources and five questionable sources
  • No original research: Not everything is properly attributed
  • Broad in coverage?
  • Major aspects: It would help to know when specifically this episode was filmed
  • Focused: Plot needs to be reduced, and there are other unnecessary bits
  • Neutral?: One bit of bias found
  • Stable?: Looks OK
  • Illustrated, if possible, by images?
  • I didn't use images at first, but others added them. I asked about it here and was told it was OK in this case, and several have passed an image review at FAC. Would you prefer it if I used the poster, rather than this publicity photo? Josh Milburn (talk) 18:41, 7 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks so much for the review. I'll get to this over the coming days. Josh Milburn (talk) 09:11, 7 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Sure thing. We'll be good as long as everything is done by July 14th. Snuggums (talk / edits) 13:32, 7 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Now passing :) Snuggums (talk / edits) 13:47, 11 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks so much for your review- it's thoroughly appreciated. Josh Milburn (talk) 15:54, 11 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Some sources

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Quoting only the Inside No. 9 sections...

  • Chater- "The dark imaginations of Steve Pemberton and Reece Shearsmith are back with six more self-contained, bleakly comic dramas set in different locations, all of which have a No 9 on the door. Tonight's opener has echoes of the very first episode of all, in which a diverse assortment of characters at a country house squeezed into a cupboard during a game of sardines. The difference here is that the characters - an anally retentive doctor, a flatulent German, a British couple on the way to their daughter's wedding, a rude Australian backpacker et al - squeeze into a tiny couchette on a train from Paris to Bourg St Maurice. You may think you know where the drama is headed, but don't be so sure ..."
  • First Billen- "Outlander Amazon Prime Instant Video**

Inside No 9 BBC Two****

...

The return of Inside No 9, was, in contrast, a delight. Strangers trapped in a train compartment, in this case a TGV couchette, is hardly more original a starting point than time travel, but Steve Pemberton and Reece Shearsmith, who wrote and starred, scored a laugh every few seconds and then a home run with a savage resolution. The remarkable thing - and here credit is shared with a cast that included Mark Benton and Julie Hesmondhalgh - was that the passengers were little more than stereotypes: a drunken German; a tarty Aussie backpacker; a control-freak Englishman and Jack Whitehall (who has become a type all by himself). Yet they were as fresh as the pilgrims in Chaucer's Prologue."

  • Second Billen- "Comedy, they say, is subjective. I compared the first story of the new series of Steve Pemberton and Reece Shearsmith's Inside No 9, with Chaucer's Prologue, thereby offending at least one reader who though its "puerile humour" as "flatulent as its one-dimensional figures". If he hated last night's play, The 12 Days of Christine, it will be for different reasons. Humour did not really come into this dark tale, and if Pemberton played one of his usual sympathetic gay men, Sheridan Smith gave tragic depth to its central character, Christine."
  • White- "Inside No. 9 (BBC2) 10pm-10:30pm

1.1m (6.1%)

Reece Shearsmith and Steve Pemberton's dark comedy returned with a marginally higher audience than tuned in for its first series launch, which averaged 1.05m (5.7%) in February 2014."