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Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by BorgQueen (talk19:21, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Created by Mhhossein (talk). Self-nominated at 12:53, 7 November 2022 (UTC). f[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: No - not really

QPQ: No - Not done
Overall: @Mhhossein: Good article however I dont feel as if the hook is all that interesting. It would probably be better to mention that the company was funding IS and Nusra. So could you make a new hook? Onegreatjoke (talk) 16:31, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review Onegreatjoke. I actually meant to have it as short as possible maybe we can have it as a lead hook in the set. --Mhhossein talk 06:06, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Mhhossein: I mean, you can make a hook short like that but It would probably be more beneficial to make it a bit longer. Saying that Lafarge was found guilty for crimes about humanity is somewhat interesting but if you where to mention that they were funding the Islamic State than that we be really interesting. Onegreatjoke (talk) 16:53, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Onegreatjoke: Hmm...what do you think the following?
Alt 1:... that Lafarge, a French company, was found guilty for complicity in crimes against humanity for making payment to the terrorist groups Islamic State of Iraq and Levant and al-Nusra Front?
--Mhhossein talk 11:47, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
You could probably just say that Lafarge was found to have funded IS for your hook but I think this is fine. Onegreatjoke (talk) 15:09, 13 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@RoySmith: Thanks for bringing this issue to our eyes. Can you take a look at this one and this one please? --Mhhossein talk 07:30, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Those work, thanks. Could you add one of them to the France Supreme Court ruling section where you first mention crimes against humanity? -- RoySmith (talk) 14:55, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome Roy, please see if my recent edit matches your demand. Also, do you have any suggestion for the hook itself? This source writes that Lafarge is the first French firm being "tried in connection to crimes against humanity." Can it be more interesting do you think (also asking the opinion of @Onegreatjoke) ?--Mhhossein talk 05:58, 16 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
RoySmith:Will the following hook resolve the issue:
Alt 2:... that Lafarge, a French company, was charged with complicity in crimes against humanity for making payment to the terrorist groups including Islamic State of Iraq and Levant?
Thanks. --Mhhossein talk 06:50, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That looks better to me, but given the history here I'd prefer to leave this for somebody else to take a look at to make sure we get it right this time. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:28, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the proposal, but it does not include the 'crime against humanity' which had been the topic of the most recent legal cases. --Mhhossein talk 07:05, 24 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Crimes against humanity category removal

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Crimes against humanity is a specific legal concept. In order to be included in the category, the event (s) must have been prosecuted as a crime against humanity, or at a bare minimum be described as such by most reliable sources. Most of the articles that were formerly in this category did not mention crimes against humanity at all, and the inclusion of the category was purely original research. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 07:49, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]