Talk:Lana Lang (Smallville)/GA1

GA Review

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GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

1. Is it reasonably well written?

   A. Prose quality:

   B. MoS compliance:

2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?

   A. References to sources:

   "this is only the sixth time the character has been adapted to a live action television series." - This is in the lead, but I don't believe that it's in the article (correct me if I'm wrong). It should be expanded upon, and explained why the creators choose to use the character

   First, it was wrong. It should have been "four" and not "six". If it was "six" I wouldn't have even mentioned it. Second, it was more or less just a tack on fact for the Shuster/Seigel info. I'd like to expand on it, but I haven't been able to find much for it. That being said, it is on my to-do list but this page is supposed to reflect a "broad" coverage, and not a "comprehensive" coverage. <span style="background:Maroon;color:Gold">  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 22:01, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

   B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:

   I see several citation needed tags in there. In the past, I've failed pages because of that, but this should be easily fixable.
   "Jade Unterman and Louise Grant portrayed the character as a child and an elderly woman, respectively." <- Needs citation

   The episode is the source, they're credited. Seemed unnecessary to place said source there because it isn't really a challengable item. The others are those awards. I've been having trouble finding any source (other than IMDB) that will verify the nominations (as most people don't report on nominations, just wins).  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 21:28, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

   C. No original research:

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. Major aspects:

   B. Focused:

4. Is it neutral?

   Fair representation without bias:

5. Is it stable?

   No edit wars, etc:

6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?

   A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:

   B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

   One thing I'm noticing is that there is no timeframe for a lot of these events. As someone who only realized that Smallville was about Superman by reading this article, I think it would be beneficial if you cited more episodes in the text and gave (season #, year) citations like what is done in Homer Simpson
   It's insinuated that the character has left the show, but it's never really expanded upon. Has the character left the show? Why? What was the actress' reaction?
   I'd like to see a reception section added about the reaction to the character. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 21:00, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

   As soon as I get a chance I'll go back in and identify events (that's one thing I forgot to do on all of those character articles).I have taken care of identifying episodes/seasons for all the events that need them. See here. I don't recall Kreuk doing a lot of interviews discussing why she left the show, but I'll check out. "Reception" on these characters is scarce. I'll try and move some info around, as I think this page suffers the same as the Clark Kent page did, and that was any "reception"-like info was placed in more relevant sections: Characterization, Portrayal, etc.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 21:28, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

   My last college paper is due tomorrow, so I should be able to devote my time after that to cleaning up the issues that you saw.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 22:01, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

I have absolutely no expertise on this topic; I'm just glancing at the article after seeing it listed as a GAC. But is six (or four) times really a notably low number for a character being adapted for a live-action TV series? I'm just questioning the "only" in that sentence. Propaniac (talk) 21:44, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

I don't know if 4 is low, like I said, it was merely a tack-on fact. I put it there because the character has been around as long as Superman, but has only been adapted to TV 4 times (and I think two of those times it was only for a one-shot episode).  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 22:20, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

I've just gone ahead and removed it pending the addition of further context.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 20:55, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

I put in some sources for Jade and Louise. As for the awards, I'm still working on it. I found one site that listed all of the nominations, but it was blacklisted because someone spammed the general weblink awhile back. I'm in the process of trying to get this specific web address whitelisted for use.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 15:28, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

I added some refs for the awards, they're probably reliable enough. Also, BuddyTV has a list of all her awards, including a few that aren't on the page. Since the website has its own page, I'm guessing it should be allowed. Corn.u.co.pia / Disc.us.sion 00:51, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

That BuddyTV info you linked to is user edited. If you register with BuddyTV you get access to edit those sections. So, no, we cannot use them.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 00:59, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

I removed a bunch of stuff not relating to this GA review. If you two want to debate about the article, do it on the talk page, not here. Have my concerns been addressed? -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 16:21, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for removing that (and I apologize for getting caught up in that needless debate). As for your concerns, for the most part. I say that because, the "Reception" section isn't complete (what ever is), but it was started. We moved the awards down to that section, and we've got one review of Kreuk in the role so far. We're struggling to find reliable, professional reviews that actually discuss either the character or the actress. It's there, it's just not as nicely filled as the other sections.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 16:38, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Scorpion, I'm going out of town this whole week for the holiday, so I won't be able to work on the article during that time. If you think something needs improvement then please let me know so that I can address it when I return. If not...well, then you know what to do. Happy Holidays.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 14:00, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm happy with the page now, I'll promote. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 17:13, 20 December 2008 (UTC)