Talk:Lapitch the Little Shoemaker

Lapitch the Little Shoemaker was a good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
March 22, 2009	Peer review	Reviewed
July 6, 2009	Good article nominee	Not listed

Current status: Former good article nominee

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Comment[edit]

The plot and character sections need complete re-writes from someone who has seen this film. I'll do a little obvious cleanup but I have half a mind to delete the plot and character sections and stub the article. I'll come back and do that in, say, a fortnight. -- _{Escape Artist Swyer} ^{Talk to me} _{The mess I've made} 21:40, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've finally done just that. But it's still going to take a lot of work even if we get it through GA level. --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 09:31, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Early attempt?[edit]

I just found something of potential interest towards the article's development. Questionable as it seems (and looks—it's from a blog), it might stay there while I try and check it out further:

“

In 1987, British animator Clive Townsend and Japanese studio TMS Entertainment worked on a big-screen adaptation of Ivana Brlić-Mažuranić's novel, The Brave Adventures of Lapitch. This low-budget attempt featured the voices of Christopher Lloyd, Russi Taylor, Phil Hartman and Mona Marshall. Composer Sir Liam Bromwich wrote the theme song, "The Golden Love", which would later end up as Petar Grašo's "Ljubav sve pozlati". The film failed to make a financial impact in its production countries, and Croatia would not see its own version come to light for the next ten years.

”

"Vuk91" (2008-06-18). "'Čarobnajkov šešir' i sinhronizacija na prostoru bivše Jugoslavije" (in Serbian). vuk91.mojblog.rs. Retrieved 2009-03-15.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: numeric names: authors list (link)

--Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 14:57, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Outside this source, I'm afraid I can't find anything else on Google to support the claim. But nice try for a tidbit. --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 08:02, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Language link polling[edit]

This list will be updated as more translations are added.

(in Basque) Lapitch, zapatagile txikia [1]
(in Catalan) Lapitch, el petit sabate [2]
(in Croatian) Čudnovate zgode šegrta Hlapića
(in Czech) Myšáček malý obuvníček
(in Dutch) Lapitch, de kleine schoenmakersmuis
(in Estonian) Lapitch, väike kingseppmeister [3]
(in Finnish) Pikku suutari
(in French) Lapitch le petit cordonnier
(in German) Lapitch, der kleine Schuhmacher
(in Hungarian) Lapics - A kis suszterinas [4] (also known as Lapitch: A Kis Cipészinas)
(in Italian) Lapitch Il piccolo calzolaio (film) (see also TV show article)
(in Polish) Przygody szewczyka Grzesia (film)
(in Russian) Лапиш - маленький башмачник
(in Slovene) Čudovite dogodivščine vajenca Hlapiča [5]
(in Spanish) Lapitch, el pequeño zapatero
(in Swedish) Lapitch den lilla skomakaren

--Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 08:02, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Lapitch the Little Shoemaker/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Starting review. Jezhotwells (talk) 22:31, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Quick fail criteria assessment

The article completely lacks reliable sources – see Wikipedia:Verifiability.
The topic is treated in an obviously non-neutral way – see Wikipedia:Neutral point of view.
There are cleanup banners that are obviously still valid, including cleanup, wikify, NPOV, unreferenced or large numbers of fact, clarifyme, or similar tags.
The article is or has been the subject of ongoing or recent, unresolved edit wars.
The article specifically concerns a rapidly unfolding current event with a definite endpoint.

No problems when checking against quick fail criteria. Move on to main review. Jezhotwells (talk) 22:34, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Checking against GA criteria[edit]

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose):
Plot: here are a few issues with the prose style here:
Eventually, the two of them visit a young squirrel..., implies other things happened, probably best to drop eventually. Keep it simple.

An awkward raccoon,.. Awkward?

#The road ahead, however, does not go smoothly: Perhaps their journey, unless you are talking about the state of the road.

Because of Dirty Rat—"king of the Underworld" as he is known—Lapitch wakes up shocked to see his boots gone. Clumsy, rewrite in plain English.

As he looks for the shiny pair, perhaps as he looks for the boots, is it important that they are shiny?

The mouse later gives it to the raccoon, after he falls off Dirty Rat's wagon Confusing, which raccoon? Who fell off the wagon?

but the villagers make Melvin a suspect in the area's recent robbery sting. So Melvin has joined the group?. Rewrite make a suspect in ...robbery sting. This is not good English.

The clouds clear as soon as everyone celebrates. Is this important?
In short please rewrite this whole section in good, clear English. If you cannot then enlist the aid of the WP:Guild of copyeditors. Jezhotwells (talk) 22:57, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Production:
During production, the crew used cel cameras dating as far back as 1938, and made Ivana Brlić-Mažuranić's title character a mouse, amid a roster of anthropomorphic animals There are two diffrent subjects in this sentence, simpfly.

boasted is a weasel word.

In their only screen roles, child actors Ivan Gudeljević and Maja Rožman played the title character and his girlfriend respectively. Better in their debut roles, but they are just doing the voices right?, so hardly a screen role.
A handful of Canadian voice actors Handful? weasel word.
Release and reception:
Still, Lapitch went on to become the most successful theatrical release... Drop the word still.

an honour it still holds as of 2009. This dates the etxt, better to just drop it.

The Croatian unit, better Croatian arm or subsidiary.
Lapitch the Little Shoemaker became popular enough in Europe to warrant a television series, entitled Hlapićeve nove zgode in its native Croatia. Why did popularity in Europe make a Croatian TV series viable?
Lead. OK

So we are looking at a major copy edit here. Jezhotwells (talk) 22:57, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
b (MoS):
OK
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (references):
Reference #6 is a dead link; as is reference #14; as is reference #26 which is to a dead geocities site, geocities hosts personal web pages, not a WP:RS
b (citations to reliable sources):
Reference #17 is to a blog, not allowable; #34 just says Amazon is selling the DVD, not release information; as noted above #26 is a geocities link which is not a RS. I assume good faith for the Croatian and Slovenian references. Jezhotwells (talk) 23:17, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
c (OR):
No evidence of OR. Jezhotwells (talk) 23:17, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It is broad in its scope.
a (major aspects):
The article is broad in scope. Jezhotwells (talk) 23:17, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
b (focused):
and focussed. Jezhotwells (talk) 23:17, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
NPOV. Jezhotwells (talk) 23:17, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It is stable.
No edit wars etc.:
Stable
It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):
Images are tagged and have suitable rationales. Jezhotwells (talk) 23:17, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Suitable captions. Jezhotwells (talk) 23:17, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Overall:
Pass/Fail:
OK, I am going to put this on hold whilst the above issues are addressed. If it is going to take a long time, please let me know. Jezhotwells (talk) 23:17, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK, no progress is being made so I will fail this now. Jezhotwells (talk) 02:48, 6 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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