Talk:Lindsay Hassett/GA1

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Reviewer: Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 03:19, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Article Comments[edit]

Lead

  • "Selected for the 1938 tour of England with only one first-class century to his name, Hassett established himself with three consecutive first-class centuries. Isn't the second "centuries" getting a bit repetitive? Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 06:52, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • "... becoming the only player to score two centuries in a match against Bill O'Reilly, widely regarded as the best bowler in the world." Instead of a comma, is a mdash better? Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 06:52, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Why not use Victory in Europe Day for the first occurrence rather than "VE Day"? Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 06:52, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • "During his 24 Test matches in charge ...". Why not simply say, "During his 24 Tests in charge"? Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 06:52, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • "... Hassett's team lost The Ashes after Australia had held them for 19 years." comma after Ashes. Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 06:52, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • "At the age of 40, Hassett promptly retired." Sentence a bit short, can it be merged? Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 06:52, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Hassett had a poker face". What does this mean? Please clarify. Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 03:19, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Linked, done the rest YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (help the Invincibles Featured topic drive) 05:58, 9 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Test debut

  • "... and despite failing to pass 30 in the next four innings, ^ was ..." Add "he".
  • "anomalous", be careful not to get too funky with the wording. An encyclopedia not a book.
  • "The innings earned Hassett a reputation of ^ calm under pressure ..." Missed out "being".

Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 07:36, 10 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rivalry with O'Rielly

  • "211 not out and 102 in two matches against South Australia, whose attack was led by Clarrie Grimmett, who held the world record for the most career Test wickets.[16] He scored centuries in both matches against Queensland and another against Western Australia.[6] In the first match against Queensland, he scored 104 and then 73 in the second innings to steer the Victorians to a narrow three-wicket victory." Can this be tweaked a bit? Seems a bit dot pointy.
  • "Nevertheless, NSW won the game and the shield, then played against a Rest of Australia combination." Before playing?
  • "Batting for the Rest ..." Best to say Rest of Australia.
  • "NSW demonstrated their strength by winning this game as well." Doesn't seem to flow. What about adding "however", or something along those lines.
  • "Hassett lost his wicket to O'Reilly in a first-class match only three times." Doesn't flow either and feels like a stat that has been thrown in. Do you know what Hassett averaged in matches Tiger player? How many matches, ect..

Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 07:36, 10 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

apart from the av in Tiger, matches, done YellowMonkey (bananabucket!) 07:45, 10 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

War years and the Services team

  • "On 23 September 1940, Hassett enlisted in the Second Australian Imperial Force (AIF);[20] he played four first-class matches in the following 1940–41 season, scoring 384 runs at 54.86 including a century against South Australia..." Is that the correct place for "he"? Doesn't flow
  • "During his time in the army, Hassett gained a reputation as a popular player because of his 'blithe spirit'." Popular cricketer while at war? Please clarify.
  • "He married during his brief return to Melbourne in May 1942, and then his unit was sent to Port Moresby in New Guinea. In 1945, with the cessation of hostilities in Europe, Hassett was selected to lead the Australian Services cricket team on a tour of England; they played against an England team in matches known as the "Victory Tests".[22] Officially a military unit, the team's commanding officer was Squadron Leader Stan Sismey of the Royal Australian Air Force. They went on to play 64 matches in nine months of cricket in four countries." Feel like dots thrown together with bits missing.
  • "This is cricket as it should be...These games have shown that international cricket can be played as between real friends—so let's have no more talk of "war" in cricket." Space the "..." like with the rest of the article.
  • "The series was regarded as an outstanding success, with a total attendance of 367,000 and bright and attacking play." Replace with "watching".
  • "It was a tougher proposition for Hassett’s men, as all but one of the nine matches was against first-class opposition." Replace with something else. Probably "were".
  • "In the opening match of the tour against North Zone, Hassett made 73 in a drawn match.[6] In ... " Feels a bit repetitive.
  • "... but the city was gripped in deadly riots as independence activists ^ agitated against British rule." Something missing?
No, what? YellowMonkey (bananabucket!) 08:07, 10 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I was was not sure. Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 08:09, 10 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • "On the final day, pro-independence rioters broke through the security presence and invaded the pitch again while East Zone were batting." What do mean by "again"?
  • "Hassett scored 57 as Australia defeated Ceylon by an innings in Colombo before returning to Australia." Explain why they went to Sri Lanka.
The fundraising tour was already mentioned above.

Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 07:48, 10 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

did the rest YellowMonkey (bananabucket!) 08:07, 10 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Post-war career

  • "Despite speculation that he would lead the team, as Bradman was unavailable, the Australian Board of Control appointed Bill Brown as captain and O'Reilly as vice-captain." Have you mentioned why Bradman was unavailable? Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 01:26, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
done YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (help the Invincibles Featured topic drive) 23:47, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sheet anchor role

  • "In the warm-up matches ahead of the Tests, Hassett hit 57, 57 and 28 against the touring English team. He hit 114 and 36 not out ..." Change an "it", because of repetition. Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 01:26, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
done YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (help the Invincibles Featured topic drive) 23:47, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Invincibles tour

  • "After being involved in a run out, Hassett fell to leave Australia at 5/20.[79][80] Australia fell to 6/31, effectively seven down with Sam Loxton incapacitated by injury ..." Repetitive.
  • "Hassett almost holed out early when he knocked a ball just wide of the wicket-keeper." Is knocked the correct word? What about edged, ran or glanced? Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 01:56, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
done YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (help the Invincibles Featured topic drive) 23:47, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Captain of Australia

  • "The season, which was purely domestic with no touring Test team ..." Why?
It was quite normal for that to happen 50% of the time in the old days. I guess in those days the boat trip took 2 months so it was a waste of time to get a team in each year if it might lose money but the books never bother to say explicitly, mayeb it's obvious, but it is not Hassett's fault the transport and money was in such a way. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (help the Invincibles Featured topic drive) 23:47, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Two main reasons ..." Reasons not "reason"
  • "Hassett was the first Catholic captain since Percy McDonnell in 1888." Can you combine or expand the sentence so it doesn't have a dot pointy feel.
  • "... Hassett using defensive tactics to slow the scoring and keep his hosts batting as the pitch slowly achieved" What?

Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 22:48, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

done the rest YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (help the Invincibles Featured topic drive) 23:47, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Success at home

  • "In the Second Test at Melbourne, "Australia owed much to the imperturbable Hassett" as he top-scored with 52 in the first innings. Australia won another low-scoring match by 28 runs; ..." Comma after Hassett?
  • "In the Fifth Test at the MCG, Hassett top-scored with 92 before his dismissal with a one-handed diving catch sparked a collapse and Australia managed only 217 batting first." Repetition.
  • "... but despite the success on the field, the series was poorly attended and revenue was down by around 25% from the corresponding tour four years earlier." Mention the reasons - such as: Bradman was not playing.
  • "Hassett played in seven shield matches without defeat, winning five to help Victoria to another title." Change to "he".
  • "Hassett went into the First Test at Brisbane without playing a first-class match for the season." Any reason why?
  • "Having worked out how to play Ramadhin ..." You sure he "worked [him] out"? Or his play was improved?
  • "Australia’s batsmen again struggled and conceded a lead of 56 on the first innings, Hassett making 15 ..." Semi-colon?
done all. Hassett worked out how to pick Ramadhin YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (help the Invincibles Featured topic drive) 23:47, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 22:57, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Australia's decline and the Ashes lost

  • "In anticipation of the forthcoming tour of England, the Australian selectors ..."
  • "Hassett made 37 as Australia made 266 ..." Repetition
  • "Hassett warmed up [^] consecutive half-centuries against Surrey and Warwickshire." Add "with"
  • " As a result, the leg spinner Ring was omitted.

Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 23:02, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

done. Anything for the style/ family sections??? YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (help the Invincibles Featured topic drive) 23:47, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Other comments[edit]

  • I don't think you have on the other invincible articles, but it would be best if you put in a brief description of his his statistical performances away/home and why he averaged over 100 in India and 38 against England? You might know about the difference in quality of attack/pitches but someone else may not. Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 03:28, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The four Tests against India were in Australia and two of them were sticky pitches. ALthough India were weak at the time it was mainly overseas batting and not really because of a flat pitch YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (help the Invincibles Featured topic drive) 06:53, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The article could do with this info not me. Bit late I suppose. Maybe he needs a sub article. Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 07:29, 10 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
4-5 innings isn't really enough to make conclusions based on trends, etc YellowMonkey (bananabucket!) 07:37, 10 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough... Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 07:49, 10 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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