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Name

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Lion's Den = Den of Lion

Lions' Den = Den of Lions Selfstudier (talk) 21:32, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Moved. Selfstudier (talk) 14:19, 22 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Undiscussed move and repeated move after reversion

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  • curprev 12:19, 26 October 2022 Selfstudier talk contribs m 552 bytes 0 Selfstudier moved page Talk:Lions' Den (group) to Talk:Lions' Den over a redirect without leaving a redirect undothank
  • curprev 11:56, 24 October 2022 Dunutubble talk contribs m 552 bytes 0 Dunutubble moved page Talk:Lions' Den to Talk:Lions' Den (group): Can easily be mixed up with Lion's Den undothank
  • curprev 14:19, 22 October 2022 Selfstudier talk contribs 552 bytes +104 →Name: Reply undothank Tags: Reply Source
  • curprev 14:17, 22 October 2022 Selfstudier talk contribs m 448 bytes 0 Selfstudier moved page Talk:Lion's Den (group) to Talk:Lions' Den without leaving a redirect: Possessive plural and disambiguation not needed undothank
@Dunutubble: thanks for catching this move by Selfstudier. In ictu oculi (talk) 16:40, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The problem is that the article was set up with the wrong title in the first place ('s) instead of (s') (see section above where I raised this), the latter doesn't need disambiguation, whereas the first would have done. Selfstudier (talk) 16:52, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 26 October 2022

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved to Lions' Den (militant group). per discussion consensus. In assembled editors, WP:PRECISE and WP:DEFINING were the most convincing arguments which received a plurality of support. WP:DIFFPUNCT is a fair point, but was less convincing to editors here, who pointed out the ambiguity of punctuation in this case is extremely confusing to our readers, given that the militancy of this group is one of its defining characteristics. I will also retarget the redirect to Lion's Den per this discussion. (closed by non-admin page mover) — Shibbolethink ( ) 18:26, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Lions' DenLions' Den (group) – Can easily be mixed up with Lion's Den and Lions' den. Dunutubble (talk) (Contributions) 12:40, 26 October 2022 (UTC) — Relisting.  — Amakuru (talk) 17:38, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Why would you redirect lions' den to the militant group? In ictu oculi (talk) 16:30, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Why would you redirect lions' den to the militant group? Where did I do that? Selfstudier (talk) 16:59, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
here :curprev 16:31, 26 October 2022 In ictu oculi talk contribs 38 bytes +14 Undid revision 1118339621 by Selfstudier (talk) undo Tags: Redirect target changed Undo curprev 13:22, 26 October 2022 Selfstudier talk contribs 24 bytes −14 This is the right article undothank Tags: Redirect target changed Reverted 10 November 2012 curprev 01:59, 10 November 2012 Pmj talk contribs 38 bytes +38 ←Redirected page to Daniel in the lions' den thank ]In ictu oculi (talk) 17:33, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Lions' den (note L, not l) was a redirect, and now you have reverted it to, Daniel in the lions' den, which is obvious nonsense. I had changed it to redirect to this article, which is logical (it could also just be deleted). Selfstudier (talk) 17:51, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
You seem to be edit-warring. In ictu oculi (talk) 16:41, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
My first move was to correct the wrong title ('s instead of s'). and since it doesn't need disambiguation in the absence of any other instance, I removed the "group" designation (which would also be wrong even if disambig applied). Selfstudier (talk) 17:03, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Correcting the logo picture of the lions' den group

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The logo used in the wikipedia article of the lions' den does not fully match with their official logo that is used by themselves in their marches and events (source: [1]https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2022/10/26/who-are-the-lions-den-armed-group-in-occupied-west-bank-explainer ) nor with the one used to represent themselves in their official communication channels such as the one in telegram. Difference can be observed in the font of the Arabic text on the logo and the presence of a shadow figure holding a slingshot and a weapon, among other things.

I suggest the logo be changed to the one they officially use for themselves. I have uploaded their official logo to wikimedia here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%D8%B4%D8%B9%D8%A7%D8%B1_%D8%B9%D8%B1%D9%8A%D9%86_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%B3%D9%88%D8%AF.png BobaDoda1 (talk) 17:55, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Excessive timeline

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The timeline in the article is way too detailed. How is a flag photo and a bunch of bullets being fired without harming anyone notable enough to deserve mention in a Wikipedia article? The timeline should be turned into a prose section, in my opinion. Mucube (talkcontribs) 17:05, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

25 October

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The source says "At least three who died have been identified as members of Lion's Den, including a senior commander and founder of the group, Wadi al-Houh, 31. Israeli media say all five belonged to it although, according to locals two of those killed were civilians uninvolved in the fighting." Our article should represent the disagreement rather than what it currently says, which is "Three Lions' Den militants were killed, including leader and co-founder Wadee al-Houh. Two Palestinian civilians were also killed in the nearby areas."

We can't use Wikipedia's voice to take the side of "according to locals" nor "Israeli media." Instead both should be mentioned, as the source does. FrankForAllAndBirds (talk) 14:57, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 21 November 2023

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Delete :Funding The group receives undisclosed amounts of funds from Hamas.[15]

The source is unreliable and biased and non backed-up information is dangerous in the current context. Wedonttoleratecorruption (talk) 21:40, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed. It was based on an opinion piece. It has been removed now. Iskandar323 (talk) 12:10, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Insignia

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File:Al Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades Flag.gif {{Non-free USGov-IEEPA sanctions}}

Would their logo be usable under the same logic as the above?
I was considering re-drawing it from news photos of patches, but maybe that's redundant?
Irtapil (talk) 21:13, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]