Talk:List of Major League Baseball single-game grand slam leaders

Home/Away split

"Away" wins 12 to 1? That seems quite extreme, especially in light of the fact that most batters are bigger home run threats in their home ballpark than they are in less familiar surroundings.

The only explanation that I can come up with is the fact that the home team doesn't always bat in the ninth inning. When a home team player adds four runs to his team's offense with one swing, he measurably lessens the chance of his team requiring a ninth inning that day, and his own chance of a second at bat with the bases full are similarly reduced. On the other hand, visiting batters are guaranteed nine innings of offense, thus maybe 11% more chances at a second slam.

(Maybe baserunners are less daring on the road, and so tend to hold up and clog the basepaths more. I wonder if road teams have more bases-full chances over the course of a season.) WHPratt (talk) 12:54, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

I just added mention of Garciaparra being the only one to achieve it at home, so no need for a home/away split in the table. —Bloom6132 (talk) 19:26, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

1st Inning / 2nd Inning

I'd prefer that the relevant column headers read something like "Inning of first" and "Inning of second" so as not to suggest the first and second innings of a typical game. WHPratt (talk) 14:55, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Completely removed innings, since they are not all that relevant (except for Tatis, whose already listed in the lead). —Bloom6132 (talk) 05:02, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

I think that the table would benefit from restoration of this data, in correctly labeled form (Header "Innings" and entries like "1st & 7th"). This would highlight not only the Tatis feat, but the other consecutive-inning jobs, plus unusually early-late combinations. A "home/away" indicator (there must have been one at one time) would also help. As I noted elsewhere on this page, the breakdown is really thought-provoking. Since these are single-game feats, the more information about the game in question, the better. These articles should serve to encourage further analysis. WHPratt (talk) 12:58, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

There's no real reason to highlight Tatis' feat of 2 grand slams in one inning. It's already mentioned in the lead and he's the only one to do it so far. And mentioning innings really isn't relevant. The most important factor here is the fact that a player hits two grand slams in a game. It doesn't matter when they got it. And the home/away indicator is also unnecessary, as only Garciaparra achieved it at home. If you take a look at the FL List of Major League Baseball hitters with four home runs in one game, you'll see it doesn't include any of these trivial details in the table. If my end goal is to make this list an FL, shouldn't I follow the said stellar example and also not include trivia? —Bloom6132 (talk) 17:27, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

"It doesn't matter when (or where ) they got it" seems like a counterproductive philosophy for an encyclopedia. We omit a couple of simple data columns, yet take space to discuss the players' Hall of Fame prospects. Make said list tight and clean enough and it becomes devoid of interest. Just my opinion. WHPratt (talk) 17:26, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

From the perspective of a decade later, does anyone out there think that we ought to reconsider what Bloom6132 deemed "really relevant" and perhaps improve the table with a bit more information, even if the additional facts are (of course) there somewhere in the narrative? WHPratt (talk) 18:36, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Hall of Fame

I'm not sure that this discussion is really appropriate, since this list is not at all equivalent to the 3,000-hit list, 300-win list, 500-homer list and so on. The H-of-F status of these guys is an interesting footnote, but the paragraph, if retained, should mention that one-game feats officially have no bearing upon Hall of Fame selection, and so we really shouldn't expect to see too many of the list enshrined. (I'm also sure that one-game feats have some value as a bonus for some Hall electors.) The same would apply to no-hitter and unassisted triple play lists. WHPratt (talk) 15:04, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

It's worth mentioning HOF status. The 3000 hit, 300 win and 500 home run lists all state something to the effect of "guarantee entry into the Baseball Hall of Fame." These non-career lists don't. Here, we just state who's in and who went in on the first ballot. —Bloom6132 (talk) 05:05, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

It may be worth mentioning, but as of now, discussing eligibility and so on, it's about 20% of the text of the article. I'd prefer a simple statement like "two of these players went on to complete Hall of Fame careers" or something like that. WHPratt (talk) 14:16, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

This may be a good place to mention that Robin Ventura also had another two-slam day if not a two-slam game, i.e., he hit one in both games of a doubleheader. (It's in the article on Grand Slam (Baseball).) As doubleheaders become extinct, this becomes more noteworthy. WHPratt (talk) 14:27, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Doubleheaders are not uncommon nowadays (far from extinct). And since Ventura's Grand Slam wasn't within one game (which is what this article is all about), it should not be included IMO. —Bloom6132 (talk) 16:11, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

I plead guilty to hyperbole with "extinct," but in the first half of the 20th centuries, some teams scheduled doubleheaders every Sunday, and maybe 1/3 of their schedule was in doubleheader games. Now, hardly any are ever scheduled, and the few that are played are to make up rainouts are are usually the day-night variety. I would confidently predict that records involving doubleheaders will go unchallanged for the most part. WHPratt (talk) 16:06, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Are double headers uncommon, if not extinct? I read this on ESPN.com just today:

The first scheduled doubleheader at Wrigley Field in 31 years will take place Saturday, and the Chicago Cubs will be facing the same franchise that they did then.

Chicago's game scheduled for Sunday against the Washington Nationals was moved to Saturday as part of a day-night doubleheader after an offseason request by Alderman Tom Tunney, who was concerned about neighborhood traffic and congestion in connection with the city's annual Pride Parade.

It sounds as if even this latest one wasn't "scheduled" until recently! So, I don't think that my earlier statement was too extreme. WHPratt (talk) 16:30, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Willingham pic

Do you know where I can get a cropped version of this pic with just Willingham in it? I'm not really good at images (hence my never having edited WP Commons), but a crop pic of the above image would be better for this article, as it actually shows Willingham in play (rather than doing a press conference/interview as is the current pic in the list). —Bloom6132 (talk) 16:39, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

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