Talk:List of Virtual Console games for Wii (North America)/Archives/2013/September

Commodore 64

Although the gonintendo.com article is from August 12th, that does not mean it was the date of the discontinuation of the games, I was aware of it since August 2nd. There are other posts in other forums that confirm the removal days before August 12th. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.180.118.122 (talk) 14:13, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Forum posts are not reliable sources. Neither are articles whose only basis is the response of two individuals who may well be encountering the same error. Now, if/when one of these sites decides to contact Nintendo and publish Nintendo's response to the matter (which I am surprised NOBODY has done yet, if this has indeed happened), then we would have a reliable source that would back up the edit. --McDoobAU93 18:10, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Then if a reliable scientist say that the sky looks red in daylight, then it is red despite what all the people in the world would say, ¿am I right? ¿Is this the way everything in Wikipedia works? I've seen articles with no source of things that are not quite true and they remain unedited. I don't get it. By the way, this time it wasn't me the one who made the August 12th removal edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.180.118.122 (talk) 16:24, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Never said it was you, but let's take on the question at hand. Here's the fallacy in your scenario. Let's say a famous, notable scientist does indeed say that. In order for his statement to appear in an article in Wikipedia, it will need to be published in a reliable source, such as a scientific journal. Scientific and other scholarly journals are edited and peer reviewed, which means that the likelihood of such a claim making it into such a journal would be very remote, unless the journal wants to toss its credibility away. So let's say a major newspaper carries the claim. Again, newspapers are edited and reporters will seek out commentary from other scientists who would rebuke the claim. Even if the newspaper still ran it, at that point you enter fringe territory. I hope this answers your question. --McDoobAU93 20:21, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Commodore 64

Let it go already. They've been gone for over a month. There's no reason for any reasonable doubt at this point that this is just a oversight and a mix up in their system. Furthermore, there is zero precedence of such an occurrence happening on the Wii Shop since launch in 2006 with further lends credibility to the obvious.

Unless you can provide some sort of evidence that a formal announcement from Nintendo is some sort of a guarantee when a platform is removed from the Virtual Console, there's no basis for your stance. And since you can't and it has now been about 6 weeks since they disappeared, it's time to give up the nitpicking and allow their 6 week absence to speak for itself.

If you continue to revert edits that are done in good faith and furthermore accurately reflect the status of these titles on the Wii Shop as any Wii owner can see for themselves, Wikipedia users are going to have to go over your head to end what at this point is becoming vandalism.

You can't hold a Wikipedia entry hostage from the truth indefinitely. It's simply unreasonable at this point to not allow the status of this section of the Virtual Console to be correctly reflected just because you lack an official press release on the subject or some sort of nonsense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.79.199.62 (talk) 08:04, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Since Nintendo itself announced the removal of the Donkey Kong Country series from Virtual Console, and Sega itself announced the removal of its Sega Master System port of R-Type before the other Irem games were removed, I'd say there is precedent, and it is in favor of needing a source to back it up. Again, the simple proof is this - if this has happened, why has no member of the gaming press picked it up and ran with it? All we've seen are forum posts and stories based on forum posts, neither of which rise to reliability. Any speculation is pure and simple original research. --McDoobAU93 17:47, 19 September 2013 (UTC)