Talk:List of crew-served weapons of the U.S. Armed Forces

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Just outa curiousity, why are some entires marked with an x? Thatguy96 12:34, 1 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

You are correct the definition of a crew serve is one that is serviced by more than one soldier. Therefore the M-249 does not fit this discription as it is served by only one soldier, the Automatic Rifleman, in any Infantry platoon. The smallest crew serve in the US Army is the M-240B, which is served by a 2-3 man crew depending on your M-TO&E.

theres a giant descrpition in indivudal wepaons look there it will tell u why it belongs here.(Esskater11 02:32, 18 June 2007 (UTC))[reply]

This list needs a lead-in[edit]

It needs to be explained exactly what a "crew-served weapon" is, and if there is already an article on this, it should be linked. This list contains everything from assault rifles to self-propelled artillery. It's not readily apparent to readers what "crew-served weapon" means. --Cyde↔Weys 19:57, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Heh, this really does need massive cleanup: "Not all of these were crew served, and not all of these were used as crew-served weapons." We do have a Wiktionary stub on the things; I'm not sure how we can turn this into a proper article. Kirill Lokshin 20:11, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
That wikitionary stub is incorrect in its definition of a crew served weapon as it is understood in the US military. A crew-served weapon in the US military is defined as a weapon that is serviced by more than one individual. Both the sniper and the automatic rifleman have assistants. These weapons are therefore both technically crew-served. -- Thatguy96 20:41, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I linked in the article Crew served weapon, which may be in slightly better shape than this list. Or maybe not. Someone should think this area over and do some cleaning/prettifying. It seems to me that this list could be a nice adjunct to the generic article (along with lists for other nationalities, of course), but that really needs to be turned into a good article. And an explanation of how the US definition differs from the general concept in the general article sounds like a very good lead-in for this list. --Rindis 21:45, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The notion that the "M16A1 with bipod" EVER fit the definition of "crew-served weapon" in the US Army is stretching and already stretched notion. The bipod was a regular Basic Issue Item for the M16A1 rifle (although almost no one ever used it outside CONUS training centers). To count the M16A1 as a crew-served weapon you must first accept the stretched definition of crew served weapon that assumes a Squad Automatic Rifleman has an assistant which somehow made the M14A1 into a "crew-served weapon" - then you have to make the leap that when the Army replaced both the M14 and M14A1 with the same M16A1, that somehow the M16A1's which replaced M14's were individual weapons and the identical M16A1's that replaced M14A1's were crew-served weapons. The official doctrine that all the regular riflemen in a squad were supposed to use their M16A1 in semiautomatic fire and only the Automatic Rifleman was supposed to flip the selector all the way to full auto was a farce that never existed outside CONUS training centers, and didn't last very long even there.

I don't have to assume that the automatic rifleman has an assistant, when they "normally" do. From FM 7-15, Rifle Platoon and Squads, Infantry, Airborne, and Mechanized, dated 1965: "One rifleman in each fire team is normally designated to carry additional ammunition for either the automatic rifleman or the grenadier." -- Thatguy96 (talk) 03:08, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect Info[edit]

I find that M82A1/A2/A3 is still used today in the U.S. Army they even have it on their game, however, it was listed as retired weapon which made me wonder: M14 is RARELY used by U.S. Army said by themselves because they're using SPR (Special Purpose Rifle a M16 Variant ) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.149.170.5 (talk) 04:14, 16 April 2007 (UTC).[reply]

I'm seeing the same thing. The M82 (that big bitch .50 Cal) is used by the military. This list needs to be looked over and researched to check for weapons that still are in active duty.Konraden88 21:43, 6 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Merging??[edit]

I'm not sure that merging this is a terrible idea.....however, as that article would be considered an 'upper' topic.....I think we should try categories within it first. --Bddmagic (talk) 15:39, 20 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I would agree to that, particularly since crew-served weapons are an entire category of weapons used the world over, they aren't just specific to the US Armed Forces, let alone just the models that the US Armed Forces have operated.— Nohomers48 (talk • contribs) 22:40, 20 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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