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Karnataka, India earthquake

Can I remove the 2.7 quake in Karnataka? Yes, there was info about the damage caused by the quake, but the earthquake occurred in December 22 last year, yet they (thenewsminute.com) have made news about it only yesterday. I suggest moving it to the List of earthquakes in 2021 page. Filipinohere (talk) 01:30, 6 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Archiving all links that were cited

I suggest that I will archive links in case that it will be gone in the future. Filipinohere (talk) 10:18, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Inclusion criteria

I've modified the inclusion criteria at the top of the page to say "significant damage", as I don't think that a crack in a wall should be enough for an earthquake to make it into this list. Mikenorton (talk) 21:28, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have just removed an earthquake from the list that caused "slight damage" according to the cited sources. Mikenorton (talk) 08:32, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I removed another in which the only cited damage was some broken glass in a trophy cabinet - if we allow that sort of event into this and other year lists we could end up with hundreds a month. Mikenorton (talk) 23:19, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with the modified criteria. Since the topic of damage was raised, I'm questioning the reliability and credibility of the two sources Erdbeben news and RiskLayer Earthquake Impact Database. I haven't been able to check for those yet but heavily reliance for qualitative information like damage and tsunami heights on these two links seems pretty suspicious to me. Dora the Axe-plorer (explore the morgue) 00:05, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I had noticed the reliance on those two sources. Regarding Risklayer, it seems that Karlsruhe Institute of Technology's Center for Disaster Risk Management is involved, but it's difficult to know where it's getting its information from. Erdbeben news is well put together but is clearly a one person thing, so no external checking going on - I note also that it links to Risklayer. Mikenorton (talk) 23:04, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Over reliance on Risklayer and Erdbeben news

Descriptions about the impacts of earthquakes in this list heavily relies on two sources. As part of Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, there must be additional citations to support these additions. Citing from reliable sources is expected, regardless of whether Risklayer and/or Erdbeben news is cited. Dora the Axe-plorer (explore the morgue) 09:25, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

One thing that we should definitely not be doing is using one to support the other as they are not independent of each other. Erdbeben news is run by Jens Skapski, but he also works for Risklayer as a "disaster reporter" see here. I propose that as a project we deprecate the use of Erdbeben news and keep an eye on Risklayer, although I lean towards accepting this as a source - it certainly has potential, even if its sources are less than completely clear and it's difficult to comment on its fact-checking. Mikenorton (talk) 10:43, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I took this to the Reliable_sources/Noticeboard to get some opinions. There was a limited response, but on-one seemed to disagree with using Risklayer at least - I'm unconvinced about Jens Skapski as fitting the "subject matter expert" description, based on what we know. I think that it's up to us and I'm happy to see Risklayer being used, although there are other sources out there, particularly available through ReliefWeb, which I would tend to use instead. Mikenorton (talk) 21:13, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Poland "tremor/shock/quake"

The event in Poland on April 23 was reported as a "shock" (using auto-translate feature on browser). This source [1] mentions a "shock" with an energy corresponding to a M2.21 earthquake. English sources cites "tremor" [2] [3] [4] but do not provide a magnitude. Euronews on the other hand cites "probable methane explosion". Surely an earthquake of this scale would appear on the EMSC page. This is likely an explosion at the mining site rather than a legit seismic event, and "M2.21" in the article is just for readers to reference.Dora the Axe-plorer (explore the morgue) 14:57, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, i know right, i searched this event on EMSC page but cannot find it. So are we gonna removed this or not? Dwianto08 (Dwianto08) 17:28, 29 April 2022 (UTC) Dwianto08 (talk) 17:30, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Quake is here https://www.emsc-csem.org/Earthquake/earthquake.php?id=1121815 From my point of view it was an mining related earthquake (rockburst) so it should be added. But at the Moment the Wikipedia Entry mixes it up with a second mining accident a day earlier, which wasn´t earthquake related. 2A02:810B:1040:5230:4D6F:18BF:388B:460E (talk) 17:33, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Tonga earthquake deaths?

There’s a CNN article on the 7.3-7.9 Tonga earthquake that happened today. It says that there were two deaths, but the same article talked about the Hunga Tonga eruption in January, but the death toll from the eruption was six, not two. On the WikiNews, it states that the earthquake caused the fatalities. Should I change it or not? Quake1234 (talk) 17:29, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Cianjur earthquake deaths

While the official death toll is still 335, there are reports of uncertain confirmation that suggests a death toll of approximately 600. Should the death toll on the List of 2022 quakes article say 335 deaths or 600+ deaths? Quake1234 (talk) 11:02, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Quake1234 I was about to discuss this as well. The death toll is now 600 per Antara, the 335 deaths were recorded in the official count as the days went by; another 265 deaths were unreported because they were buried immediately. So the toll should be revised to 600. Dora the Axe-plorer (explore) 11:13, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I've already changed it to 600 due to curiosity. Quake1234 (talk) 11:19, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Inclusion criteria (again)

Too many earthquakes are being included in this list for which only minor damage, such as cracked walls and broken windows, has been reported. The purpose of this list, in my understanding, is to include events that are significant due to their magnitude, or their impact in terms of major damage and/or deaths/injuries. Mikenorton (talk) 22:54, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

My recent removal of a mining-induced event with 20 damage reports has made me look again at the criteria, with the aim of making them easier to apply. My response on my talk page to that particular event was "The main reason for doubting the severity of the damage reports is that the same source mentions 9 reports of damage from an earlier tremor in November (slightly smaller magnitude) saying that they concerned "minor scratches on finishing elements (such as gypsum boards and plaster coats)" (google translate text). Presumably there is likely to be compensation from the mine owners, so even the slightest things will be mentioned." I think that we should be looking for damage that meets at least the levels described in MMI or EMS VII or JMA 5+, with sources that support that level of damage. Mikenorton (talk) 11:49, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]