Talk:List of films based on Romeo and Juliet

Purpose of this page?

I don't understand the purpose of this page. It's redundant with the fuller and more useful Romeo_and_Juliet_on_screen#List_of_Screen_Performances, or if the intention is that it shoud be a DAB with Romeo and Juliet (disambiguation), and its only sources are IMDB and Rotten Tomatoes which aren't WP:RS.

I suggest a smerge and redirect to Romeo_and_Juliet_on_screen#List_of_Screen_Performances, unless anyone has another suggestion. AndyJones (talk) 20:41, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Pretty handy having a listing in one place. The other page you reference has selective information (and bogs down in trivia about speculations about cartoons). I think it would be messy to smerge. --64.45.228.165 (talk) 15:16, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, that's my point - we already have a listing in ONE place. The creation of this page creates a listing in TWO places. I've no idea what you mean by "bogs down in trivia about speculations about cartoons". Can you clarify? AndyJones (talk) 20:15, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

For the same reason other articles often have separate, more manageable lists, I opted for a separate page because, while the parent page provides a handful of movies with details (details some might find useful but are present in the pages about individual movies), this page provides a comprehensive listing of films.

The parent page is already huge, one of the reasons it was split from its parent page, Shakespeare on screen. Rather than massive, monolithic articles, using the power of the hyperlink to keep articles readable (and manageable) and allowing readers to click for more detail– uses the power of the computer to fully utilize a hyperlinked environment.

The detail found in the parent page is redundant and should be included in subordinate about the individual films, but that's a battle I'd rather not fight. Personally, I think this page is the more useful, should be kept separate, and by following the individual movie listings come across the detail (actors, etc).

What would you and 64 say to deleting the info in the parent article?

--UnicornTapestry (talk) 22:52, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

It's a list, like many other wiki pages, like many other pages in the Shakespeare project, in fact. I find myself using this page because it us a good reference For my purposes, I don't want to dig through needless stuff until I get to the part I want.

The parent page has good material if gossipy and kind of silly with the pictures, but it refers to eleven films with a small bit of detail whereas this page lists 42 films where I can dig for more information via hyperlinks. --64.45.228.165 (talk) 17:59, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Overhaul

So, as you can see, I've made a few changes to the page!!! As some of you may know, I'm currently re-doing the List of William Shakespeare screen adaptations page (you can keep tabs on my progress here and here if you wish), and having just completed the massive task of sorting through the near seven hundred different films connected to or adapted from Romeo and Juliet, I thought I may as well put some of the info on this page. Basically, my thinking was that the page was of limited usefulness in its previous form. Simply listing "Romeo and Juliet 19xx (directed by xxxx)" didn't really tell the reader much, and in any case many of the adaptations listed were of the Gounod opera or the Prokofiev ballet, not of the Shakespeare play. As it exists now, there's a little bit of info, some links were necessary and a strict division between 'direct' and 'other' adaptations. I based the template of the page on The Taming of the Shrew (film), which I worked on some time ago, and have gotten good feedback about. So I hope people like it; feel free to make any suggestions or such; any advice is always welcome. Bertaut (talk) 20:06, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Parody (Green Acres)

I'm not sure if outright parody fits here. The sitcom Green Acres has an episode in which the pet pig Arnold Ziffel falls in love with a basset hound named Cynthia. Both families are opposed, reference is made to the similarity to Romeo and Juliet. "Love Comes to Arnold Ziffel."Arnold Rothstein1921 (talk) 00:00, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

@Arnold Rothstein1921: Quite possibly it does, but only if we can find a reliable source that makes the connection. The current list article is rather indiscriminate (nobody's really worked on it in a while), but the guidelines for list articles (I'm too lazy to dig up the link just now) mandate some form of reasonable inclusion criteria and nods at applying judgement based on notability and due weight. Or put another way, the treshold for inclusion in the current article is pretty low, but if anybody ever gets around to improving it the stuff that's too tangenital or unsourced is very likely to be removed at that point.

I'm not familiar with "Love Comes to Arnold Ziffel" (or Green Acres for that matter) so I'm afraid I wouldn't be able to offer any useful opinion on the specific issue without doing some research. If your judgement is that this episode would meet a hypotethical future tightening of the article's inclusion criteria, I hardly think anyone would object to your adding it. --Xover (talk) 09:26, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

I'd support a purge of stuff that can't be reasonably cited, conforming to WP:V would add some sort of treshold. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:17, 26 August 2019 (UTC)