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1945 Australian Air Ambulance

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The 1945 Dakota A65-83 disappearance might be eligible for this list.

Malaysia Airlines Flight 370

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Why no link to the page dedicated to this missing airliner? Valetude (talk) 18:05, 1 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Similar to the one already in the remarks column? MilborneOne (talk) 18:11, 1 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, Milborne. I was checking the left-hand column. Didn't spot the one at the right. Apologies. (Valetude (talk) 19:58, 1 November 2014 (UTC)).[reply]

Suggested changes

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Changes I would suggest:

  1. Change the table heading "Notable people" to "People on board". For flights with no one notable or large amounts of people, the box would state "220 passengers and 12 crew" or similar, while those involving notable people would not change.
  2. If a flight had a flight number, the aircraft column should list that instead of the airplane's designation.
  3. "Context" should be changed to "Type of flight".

Thoughts? Oiyarbepsy (talk) 20:39, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Scope of this article

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Three options had been proposed and there is a clear consensus only for including those entries for incidents where we can link to the incident's article per WP:NOTNEWS. Kraose (talk) 07:49, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

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Hey everyone, so I want to poll a consensus on what exactly this article should focus on regarding the status of missing aircraft and their notability. Please share your opinions below... - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 14:45, 4 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Opinions

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1. Should aircraft that were once widely reported as "missing" but have since been found be included?


2. Should we only include entries for incidents with a link to the incident's article? (WP:NOTNEWS)


3. If a passenger on x plane has an article on Wikipedia would that be a criteria for incident inclusion?

Discussion

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Followup

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The planes that were previously missing but have since been found were moved to their own section (article creation is up to editors). As for incidents requiring an article, I took a double take of the list and that would pretty much remove most of the entries on the list. I'm going to go with the third area in question regarding "passenger on x plane has an article on Wikipedia". Its not a perfect solution, but I don't want to gut the article of content as there is plenty of room for aircraft article creation for the earlier entries. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 14:47, 19 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"unknown" grey cells in military entries

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I think it looks odd when the military aircraft entries are coloured green across the entire row apart from those cells that use the {{unknown}} template as this forces the associated cell to be grey. I've tried out a couple of fixes: in the 1900–1919 section for the Manuel Rodríguez entry, and in the 2001–present section for the Antonov entry. It's just a manual over-ride but I think it looks better. Any objections? Rodney Baggins (talk) 23:18, 4 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I mean we could either leave it blank or center "Unknown" in the middle without using a template, I would prefer the latter as you did with Manuel Rodríguez. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 14:46, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
OK I'll see what I can do about this in the next day or two. In the meantime, I have another more pressing query, please comment below. Thanks, Rodney Baggins (talk) 17:58, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Aircraft IDs

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I've been trying to tidy up the tables a bit and something quite fundamental has occurred to me. I think we need to clarify the way in which the missing aircraft are defined, because at the moment there are some inconsistencies and errors that need ironing out. First of all, I would like to suggest rewording the 2nd paragraph of the lead section something along the lines of:

"The tables in this article have an Aircraft column in which each missing aircraft is defined, using one or more identifying features. If the aircraft was known by a custom or personalized name (e.g. Pathfinder), that name is presented first (in italics) followed by the aircraft type (in parentheses). The make of aircraft, although not necessarily a unique identifier, is also provided where appropriate. Aircraft registrations began to be used in the early 20th century for individual identification, so this is included in the later tables (in parentheses). Note that flight numbers, first used in the 1930s, are not used because these are not unique to the missing aircraft; the flight number simply denotes the route that was being operated by the aircraft at the time of its disappearance, and not the aircraft itself."

I think I'm right in asserting that an aircraft is identified by its registration and/or custom name but NOT by the flight number, which just denotes the route that the aircraft was operating when it went missing. So I think the following entries should be changed accordingly:

The carrier / flight number (specifically the title of the linked wiki article) can be mentioned in the Remarks column but I think the Aircraft column should just include the specific identifying data. What do you think? Rodney Baggins (talk) 18:00, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

As I've had no response to this, I'll try implementing the change in the lead and see what happens... Rodney Baggins (talk) 08:56, 13 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The Mull Air Mystery

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There is a Wikipedia article - "Great Mull Air Mystery"- which tells the tale of Peter Gibbs and his mysterious night flight and subsequent disappearance. Though his body was recovered (on land) his (hired) aircraft was never located and positively identified, and is therefore still missing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.73.55.200 (talk) 09:06, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Possible addition

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Women's Air Service Pilot Gertrude Tompkins Silver, is still missing

Should she be included in this list?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gertrude_Tompkins_Silver — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.98.176.46 (talk) 02:43, 28 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Done I added the entry, thanks! - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 16:47, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Location, Location, Location

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To classify the Mediterranean as “North Atlantic” is, I think, stretching geography some way beyond its elastic limit. Mr Larrington (talk) 00:03, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. I cannot see any reason not to change that. (I count 14 instances.) Blurryman (talk) 23:34, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

June 1st, 1945 missing P-51 's

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on June 1st 1945 27 P-51 mustangs were lost in a storm during the pacific campaign of ww2. aviation-safety.net as reference. All aircraft remain missing. 2605:B100:702:B57D:2C27:EF06:7AC5:7A01 (talk) 22:27, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New Zealand's Bermuda Triangle?

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Surprised there is no article for the "five aircraft to have disappeared in the area" of Milford Sound, starting with the De Havilland Dragonfly ZK-AFB which disappeared on 12 February 1962. It was mentioned on Australian TV this morning that a new search was planned. Doug butler (talk) 21:19, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]