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Not the longest British Queen - yet...[edit]

Something's just occured to me - although Elizabeth II is now the longest reigning monarch, she's still not the longest serving queen. This title probably goes to her mother, Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother, who became Queen Consort on 11 December 1936, and retained the title of Queen after the death of her husband until her death on 30 March 2002. This equates to a period of 23850 days (65 years, 109 days). Obviously the Queen Mother shouldn't be in the list as she wasn't a monarch in her own right, but maybe something could be added to the article to mention this?

Incidentally, if my maths is right the present Queen will equal this record on 25 May 2017, if spared. — An optimist on the run! (logged on as Pek the Penguin) 12:05, 10 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Update: Queen Elizabeth II did indeed continue to live and reign past 25 May 2017.108.52.189.78 (talk) 14:30, 24 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I think anybody who wanted to determine how long, in days, various historical British women were Queen Consort might be in need of a nice little lie down! P M C 14:12, 10 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It's a fair point though; the Queen Mum was addressed as "your majesty" until she died. Btljs (talk) 09:04, 11 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Apart from on Spitting Image, I think, where she was known as Gordon for some reason. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:59, 11 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A gin reference? Btljs (talk) 13:10, 11 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

future possible records for Elizabeth II[edit]

@Thingg: My problem with the inclusion of these possible future scenarios is that they have nothing to do with the subject of the article: namely, monarchs of Britain and the length of their reigns. OK, so a certain amount of European or World context doesn't hurt, but really saying: if one monarch lives for a certain amount of time AND remains on the throne (which is in no way a certainty after recent abdications in Spain and Netherlands) then they will pass another record; is just over the top. It's like on a pop chart saying if so and so has three more number ones they will hold the record for the most number ones or to take the example you gave, if the sun burns for another 50 billion years it will be the longest lived star in the galaxy. I think we should wait until a record is looming rather than projecting out decades into the future. Btljs (talk) 11:32, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Should she still be reigning on –

17 January 2020 (at age 93 years, 271 days), she would surpass Franz Joseph I of Austria as the second longest reigning monarch of a major country in European history. (Update: She passed this record.^[1])
18 July 2020 (at age 94 years, 88 days), she would have been queen for 25,000 days.^[2] (Update: She passed this record.^[3])
6 February 2022 (at age 95 years, 291 days), she would celebrate her platinum jubilee, marking 70 years on the throne.^[4] (Update: She passed this record.^[5])
8 May 2022 (at age 96 years, 17 days), her reign would surpass Johann II, Prince of Liechtenstein as the second-longest reign of any monarch in European history after that of Louis XIV of France.^[6]100.11.62.41 (talk) 00:09, 18 August 2019 (UTC) (Update: She passed this record.^[5])[reply]
12 June 2022 (at age 96 years, 52 days), she would surpass Rama IX as the longest-reigning monarch having reigned only as an adult.^[7]100.11.62.41 (talk) 00:11, 18 August 2019 (UTC) (Update: She passed this record.^[5])[reply]
27 May 2024 (at age 98 years, 36 days), she would surpass Louis XIV of France as the longest-reigning monarch of a sovereign country in European history (he reigned for 72 years and 110 days).^[8]^[9]
21 April 2026 (at age 100 years, 0 days), she would celebrate her 100th birthday, becoming the only centenarian sovereign monarch in history.
19 October 2034 (at age 108 years, 181 days), she would become the longest reigning monarch in world history, surpassing Sobhuza II of Swaziland (he reigned for 82 years and 254 days).^[10]

I'll just leave this here just in case it's ever readded. --Inops (talk) 23:14, 2 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References[edit]

^ "The Queen's amazing new record". New Idea.
^ "Queen Elizabeth II becomes longest-reigning British monarch". Deutsche Welle. 2015-09-09. Retrieved 2016-04-04.
^ "Queen Elizabeth celebrates 25,000 days on the throne today as world's longest reigning monarch". Evening Standard. July 18, 2020.
^ Victoria Arbiter (September 9, 2015). "Queen Elizabeth II: The platinum monarch?". CNN. Retrieved May 20, 2016.
^ ^a ^b ^c Staff, News9 (June 13, 2022). "From Louis XIV to Queen Elizabeth II to Rainier III: Check complete list of longest-ruling monarchs". NEWS9LIVE.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: numeric names: authors list (link)
^ Greenberg, Isabel (2018-11-13). "The World's Longest-Reigning Royals In History". Harpersbazaar.com. Retrieved 2019-08-17.
^ "A Royal Occasion speeches". Journal. Worldhop. 1996. Archived from the original on 12 May 2006. Retrieved 5 July 2006.
^ "Louis XIV". MSN Encarta. 2008. Archived from the original on 1 November 2009. Retrieved 20 January 2008. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |deadurl= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)
^ Some monarchs of states in the Holy Roman Empire ruled for longer: "Longest serving rulers ever", The Independent, 29 August 2015 (retrieved 4 July 2017).
^ Bloomsbury Publishing (17 November 2016). Chronologica: The Incredible Years That Defined History. Bloomsbury Publishing. pp. 363–. ISBN 978-1-4729-3295-2.

The above 27 May 2024 date, which still comes up in some Google searches, is wrong by a day, due to ignoring leap years. It mistakenly assumes that Elizabeth has to reign 72 years and 111 days to beat Louis' 72 years and 110 days(26407 days), but this ignores the fact that 2000 was a leap year and 1700 wasn't, so she only has to reign 72 years and 110 days (26408 days) which is 26 May 2024 (see footnote (b) here). Tlhslobus (talk) 10:17, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Eleanor of Aquitaine[edit]

Okay so I have been trying to just include long reigning monarchs within the United Kingdom's history, and Europe as a whole. The 2nd longest ruling of x wouldn't be as noteworthy as the longest ruling of x for example. This being said I don't know where Eleanor would fall into, would she be considered a monarch? I feel that she very narrowly either fits in or misses the scope. Thoughts are welcomed.... - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 13:24, 24 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Eleanor was a Queen Consort (although a regent for a time when the King was out of the country), so I don't believe she belongs here. ChiHistoryeditor (talk) 20:43, 24 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Reigning Monarch: Days added to year[edit]

I realize this will not be popular but what is the reason to have the days of reign added to a current Monarch? 1)- Every article using this has to be updated every 24 hours or be outdated. 2)- It is trivial, unimportant, and "only" becomes necessary when two Monarchs, that are deceased, share the same year of reign. The current monarch will likely not be match for years. Otr500 (talk) 10:21, 8 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

There's no extra work involved. It's automatically calculated. Celia Homeford (talk) 10:31, 9 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion[edit]

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Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. —Community Tech bot (talk) 00:38, 28 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Question about reinging record[edit]

Although Louis XIV's reign started in 1643, when he was age 5, his personal reign did not begin until 1651, when he was aged 13 years, the so called 'Regency Years." Since QE2 has had single control throughout her entire reign, should that not be at least noted in this article? Taking those facts into consideration, she actually surpassed Louis XIV some 4 years ago in actual length of personal reign. I just think that is worth a mentionFrank042316 (talk).

Kings of Wessex[edit]

I have added some of the Kings of Wessex from Egbert. These kings ruled pretty much all of England and were addressed as such (Bretwalda). I struggle with the aligning, I also added Ælfweard of Wessex and tried as best as I can with aligning.

What are your thoughts on the Kings of Wessex being added to the England section? And can someone fix the aligning with the Anglo Saxons I added. MCMax05 (talk) 15:53, 7 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"If she is still reigning on:"[edit]

I'd suggest that both entries given are pure un-encyclopaedic WP:CRYSTAL and should be removed. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:18, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Semi protected?[edit]

Due to recent news there has been a fair amount of vandalism on this article. Should it be Semi Protected? Bagelpigeon (talk) 18:00, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[1] "The Queen's amazing new record". New Idea.

[2] "Queen Elizabeth II becomes longest-reigning British monarch". Deutsche Welle. 2015-09-09. Retrieved 2016-04-04.

[3] "Queen Elizabeth celebrates 25,000 days on the throne today as world's longest reigning monarch". Evening Standard. July 18, 2020.

[4] Victoria Arbiter (September 9, 2015). "Queen Elizabeth II: The platinum monarch?". CNN. Retrieved May 20, 2016.

[auto-5] Staff, News9 (June 13, 2022). "From Louis XIV to Queen Elizabeth II to Rainier III: Check complete list of longest-ruling monarchs". NEWS9LIVE.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: numeric names: authors list (link)

[6] Greenberg, Isabel (2018-11-13). "The World's Longest-Reigning Royals In History". Harpersbazaar.com. Retrieved 2019-08-17.

[longestthai-7] "A Royal Occasion speeches". Journal. Worldhop. 1996. Archived from the original on 12 May 2006. Retrieved 5 July 2006.

[8] "Louis XIV". MSN Encarta. 2008. Archived from the original on 1 November 2009. Retrieved 20 January 2008. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |deadurl= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)

[9] Some monarchs of states in the Holy Roman Empire ruled for longer: "Longest serving rulers ever", The Independent, 29 August 2015 (retrieved 4 July 2017).

[Publishing2016-10] Bloomsbury Publishing (17 November 2016). Chronologica: The Incredible Years That Defined History. Bloomsbury Publishing. pp. 363–. ISBN 978-1-4729-3295-2.

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