Talk:List of numbered roads in Durham Region

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Road Jurisdiction Inaccuracies

King Street and Bond Street are NOT regional roads or regional highways in the City of Oshawa, and most of Dundas Street in the Town of Whitby is not a regional road or regional highway. Also, Regional Highway 2 has discontinuities in the Municipality of Clarington. The Regional Municipality of Durham provides a list of regional roads. There is an archived report regarding rationalization of Durham's regional road system.

I can no longer find council information packages, public information centre boards or other files that provide the true reality of the highway transfer in 1998. When the reality surfaces once again about the transfer from the province in 1998, I'll state it and post links to files or web pages.

–2607:FEA8:7B5F:F674:49:9FA8:A1DC:69A0 (talk) 15:34, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

The article previously claimed that the portions of former highways 2, 12 and 47 in Durham had entirely become regional highways 2, 12 and 47, respectively.

For example, it claimed Bond Street in Oshawa had become Regional Highway 2. This reference given did not support such claims. This linked table on the region's previous website does not even list Bond St, former WB Highway 2, which is maintained by Oshawa. This linked table does not have to and from columns; I judge it is a misinterpretation to assume entirely for every listed street name.

I judge that an example of a reliable source is a regional road rationalization report, such as 2018-INFO-31, which talks about specific sections of roads. Pages 13 and 14 of 2018-INFO-31 support that King St and Bond St in Oshawa are not under the jurisdiction of Durham. Pages 10 and 11 support that Regional Highway 2 has two discontinuities in Clarington. Regional road listings like the two referenced by the article may contain errors.

By colour-coding with yellow and white, an inset on Map Art's 2004 Edition Ontario road map shows local jurisdiction on Brock St (former King's Hwy 12) between RR 28 and Hwy 401 as well as on Dundas/King/Bond (former King's Hwy 2) between a point in west Whitby and RR 55 (Townline Rd). I assure you that pages 16-17 (p. 6 has the legend for this section) of Map Art's 2012 Edition Golden Horseshoe atlas will again show such local jurisdiction as well as two discontinuities along Reg Hwy 2 in Clarington.

Maybe errors on Wikipedia originated from sloppy maps/geographic databases. MB Provincial Road 315 extending into ON may be an example of a cartographic error. Some maps may show several York regional road numbers extended south into Toronto. Quinte West Rd 28 tends to be marked on a parallel road to the north of the actual Road 28. Many former provincial highway numbers are still on maps. Some maps may be very accurate while others don't look so accurate.

I suspect direct transfers from the MTO to both the region and local area municipalities. Would Durham now be considering to transfer the roads back to regional government?

I've also come accross a misinterpreted reference used for a previously incorrect table of census divisions on a Wikipedia article. The reference lead to an ON provincial government listing although census divisions are a nation-wide/federal system. The provincial listing did not say "census division". The provincial listing actually has geographic divisions defined in O. Reg. 180/03 - not census divisions. That article has since been corrected.

--69.156.102.176 (talk) 01:14, 9 July 2020 (UTC)