Talk:List of the first openly LGBT holders of political offices in the United Kingdom

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Edward Heath[edit]

I have removed the section on PMs as it only contained Edward Heath, who can not definitively be said to be gay and it is extremely important on Wikipedia to keep biographical information strictly factual and stay away from indulging in rumors. If anyone has any substantial reason why they feel he should be included please put it forward.Xyphoid (talk) 14:21, 30 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I removed him as he is certainly not the 'first bisexual Lord', as was claimed (although he may perhaps have been the first to have been prosecuted for homosexuality). There are innumerable examples in history of bisexual or homosexual members of the House of Lords, though as memnership came generally by accident of birth or royal favour there is no particualr interest I would have thought in trying to seek who was the 'first'. One might also question whether being a member of the HoL is the same as 'holding political office' - for most members it is not.--Smerus (talk) 08:48, 4 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]


Kezia Dugdale[edit]

The article is List of the first LGBT holders of political offices in the United Kingdom

So the entry 2016, Second out female leader of a Political Party in Scotland Kezia Dugdale, Scottish Labour Party, MSP 2011–Present doesn't seem to make much sense. Catsmeat (talk) 21:46, 29 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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First Deputy Party Leader[edit]

Does Simon Hughes not beat Whittle as the first deputy leader of a (major) political party? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nw12398 (talkcontribs) 11:52, 13 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, seems to have - I've removed Whittle. Hughes could be put in his place if we have a source for him being the first, but then again the section is 'leaderships' so arguably a deputy leadership isn't relevant anyway? TSP (talk) 12:07, 13 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Municipal offices[edit]

I'm not sure the way the municipal offices section is organised is very helpful.

I'd have thought, like the rest of the sections, it should be for the first holder anywhere in the UK of a given office with a given LGBT status - first gay councillor, first trans mayor, etc. Instead it seems to be ordered alphabetically by place name and list the first holder of a given office in that place - e.g. there are multiple "first" gay mayors. This makes it hard to see which officeholders were genuinely groundbreaking, and means the list could grow to an almost unlimited length.

I'd suggest that this section should be rearranged into date order and only include the first person to hold a given distinction, as with the other sections. Any other views? TSP (talk) 13:37, 19 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It also all looks very 21st century. In the London Borough of Lambeth elections in 1984, among the 64 councillors elected were at least 1 gay man, 3 lesbians (one of which was leader of the council) and a transexual woman, just counting those who were out about their sexuality and that I can personally remember. I was not under the impression that this was particularly unusually among London politicians at the time. 21:34, 15 October 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C6:1489:9900:F492:F708:BC82:CFEB (talk)

Tom Driberg[edit]

why is he missing from the list? 92.18.166.120 (talk) 09:44, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]